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L0ken
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While it's not for everyone I've seen a lot of people getting into 100 girlfriends at different stages, like plenty of new watchers/readers get curious about it from random panels, anime clips or way later content in the series floating around the web, it's quite content-dense. Also series seems to be weirdly appealing to non-harem fans audience as well, I guess being heavy on absurdist comedy helps. Great anime adaptation made it stand out much more and 12 episodes is still just a small slice of what series has to offer. |
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MiniMarps
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People's disappointment in Spy X Family's 2nd season is a really weird little phenomenon to me. It did an outstanding job at being the type of show it intended to be; the complaints seem to be coming from people who straight wanted/expected it to be a different genre than it is.
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Kirki
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Lack of mention of The Apothecary Diaries baffles me. I'd put it first and Frieren for a runner-up, enjoyment levels are pretty much the same but Frieren doesn't make you anticipate the next episode as much. If it ended after almost every episode, that would have been ok too. The Apothecary Diaries has many more mysteries and stories to intrigue you.
Jujutsu Kaisen S2 had a good ponytail moment so leave it alone, it served the best it could. Attack on Titan had that dreaded ending made slightly more bearable, so I guess it's ok that it ended in general. Dead Mount Death Play Part II is indeed unfocused but still enjoyable overall. Spy x Family S2 is exactly at the same quality level as S1, or maybe I would say even better than S1, I guess now it had to compete with stronger series so its drawbacks are showing more. Kamonohashi Ron's Forbidden Deductions was a fun and harmless detective show, albeit unserious and one to be forgotten about the minute the season is over. Tokyo Revengers: Tenjiku-hen was as stupid as Tokyo Revengers always was but that was always part of its charm, faithful to the spirit of the series to the T. I guess the only one that dragged for me this season was Goblin Slayer S2. Boring would be the word to describe it, also completely uninspired. I don't understand the reason for its existence. Nothing progresses. It's... ok, but adds nothing to the experience of the first season so I'm not quite sure why we had to get it. |
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smurky turkey
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I can only speak for myself, but while I like the side stories/not long arcs a lot, it would seem that having 4 episodes of just them in a row kind of burned me out. That can also be in part due to me liking some of them a fair bit less than others (looking at you Yuri and Bondman). Once the Lorelai arc started I was once again all in and stayed so. I suppose it really were the first 4 episodes that while not bad at all just made me less engaged. |
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za21
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It's so strange seeing the disconnect between ANN and literally everywhere else when it comes to JJK. You would think it's one of the worst arcs of all time instead of it widely considered great by everyone else. On IMDB for example, the top 7 highest rated eps of all time are from this arc alone. And frankly, the criticisms against this arc have been quite uncompelling and ones you could easily make for season 1 or even the prequel arc. Especially considering that JJK has always been about the fights and this arc more than delivers on that. That's all that matters. Like people do realize it's an urgent and chaotic event, right?
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Elfensjón
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I haven't seen Scott Pilgrim and I avoided watching so I won't say anything about the show. The Kingdoms of Ruin was a butcher fest in a slaughterhouse to me. I got a bit better towards the end but I felt disgusted on the amount of the blood spilled. Regarding Berserk of Gluttony: I felt it was too rushed but then I checked the manga and it quite did follow it's pace so no objection here. I felt that the animation of Gluttony felt off sometimes. Shield Hero S3 was to me by far not the worst series this season (the series redeemed itself for a bad S2 in my opinion but it was still inferior compared to S1). That title would to Spy x Family for me. |
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Key
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I don't know about the manga version, but it was quite rushed compared to the LNs. (But where episode 12 ended is the ideal season break, I guess, so maybe they were rushing to get to that point?) I didn't much care for the character design style, either, and yes, the animation quality was substandard, especially in action scenes. But if its popularity on CR is any indication how it's doing in Japan, it will likely have another season. |
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fathomlessblue
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It's hardly just ANN, although given that the readership here is a little older & let's say more critically invested than other outlets, I can see it seeming that way. Some people are more interested in shocking reveals and flashy action & that's fine, but if the only thing a show is bringing is fireworks & twists, many others will get quickly bored. There's a lot of accusations you could throw at JJK, whether it being that Gege Akutami desperately wanted his own Chimera Ant arch, without putting the work in & allowing the time to establish or evolve the conflict & cast (both before & during the battles), or that he simply doesn't seem to understand his greatest strengths are in comedy & character writing. However, I think the reason behind the somewhat tepid backlash this show is facing is what I call 'The New Shounen Hype Train'. I've been simulwatching anime since 2011, & I've seen a lot of shounen properties come and go, & more than every other genre they nearly all come with a wave of excessive "Awwww, you have no idea what's coming your way" proclamations from (presumably) young, new to anime, or focused primarily on shounen action series, fans. The first time I became aware of this happening was when Blue Exorcist was announced, & I've seen the same thing occur on average 2-3 per year since.Over time you learn to accept that hype from these circles doesn't necessarily equate to quality, & even if the show is a huge success (eg. Demon Slayer), someone who has spent more than a year or two watching anime might not find anything that especially stands out for them. I think the frustration a lot of more seasoned fans like myself are facing is that the first season of JJK seemed to promise that. The setting & tone had a imaginative flair to it. The characters were endearingly trashy & bounced off each other like actual teens would. It had an delightfully anarchic sense of humour, but could go for the jugular during dramatic peaks. But as we've gotten further into the Shibuya arc a lot of those qualities have faded away, replaced by a more traditional shock-&-awe sequence battle manga. In a way it's simply a delayed response to the shounen hype train as we've realized this is just what the show is now. It's just another one of these. Another one of these. It's why I really don't like the conversation taking up so much space on the forum, & why I feel so conflicted even talking about it. It's still perfectly enjoyable. It's just not particularly special anymore. And given some of the truly special shows airing this season (Frieren, Scott Pilgrim, Magus Bride S2, Pluto, etc.) it doesn't deserve to take up so much attention, just as it doesn't deserve to be despised. I |
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Takkun4343
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I'm a simple man. I see an image of Malty bearing a smug smirk, I flip the bird and call her by her alivename.
Best this season is the six episodes of Dr. Stone: New World I've seen so far, followed by MF Ghost (which works best as fanservice for Initial D fans like myself who watched all of Final Stage in one sitting), then SHY (which really improved from its "mildly annoying" undercurrents in the first third), then Hypnosis Mic: Rhyme Anima PLUS (which faltered a bit now that the plot's shifted its focus to the femi-national socialists that are Chuohku). FLCL Grunge and Shoegaze are at the bottom by technicality; neither one was really necessary, but I liked both and the fact that I see disdain for their general existence most places I go makes me like them even more. (Yeah, I'm like that.) Kengan Ashura Season 2.0 is out of the running for right now, as I've only seen three episodes and that's not enough for me to give a proper ranking yet. All I'll say now is, I'm glad to have this show back. |
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T3rmidor
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For a season packed with bangers and well deserved hype animes like Frieren, I have really enjoyed The Vexations of a Shut-In Vampire Princess even or rather, despite, the whole nature as a trashy show. The anciente magus bride also deserve a mention as we are probably not going to see another season in a very long while. On the other hand, Kingdoms of Ruin probably take the crown (haha) for worse of the season subjectively, as it was with each episode till I drop it a shitshow after shitshow.
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Saeryen
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Yes! It is my absolute FAVORITE of the season so far and will probably be my pick for best. |
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Minos_Kurumada
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This is funny since my main complain it's exactly the lack of urgency in the plot. Also, it's not chaotic, everything it's narrated in organized manner and the only points of confusion are the ones the plot simply decides to not to tell you in order to shock you latter. |
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Top Gun
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I'm genuinely surprised to see only one mention of Pluto. I'm only 3/4 of the way through it right now, but it's not only the best thing I've seen all year, I think it's one of the single-greatest pieces of television I've ever witnessed. Honestly any praise I could heap on it would just feel empty and inadequate. I adored Monster, and I've seen the manga held up as a masterpiece for years now, but it's been a complete joy to watch the anime adaptation knock it out of the park. This is Naoki Urasawa's world and we're all just living in it.
I guess the only other thing I've watched from this current season is Dr. Stone on Toonami. It's been an absolute treat from episode 1, and I'm here for the ride. |
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za21
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That's the problem I have with people claiming they loved the first season but are attacking (unfairly imo) this season. It really didn't have all that, or at least not any more than this season. It comes across as revisionism. Did we forget that the characters were barely together then with Yuji being separated from the cast most of the first half and then other half being a tournament arc with episodic fights that was just a distraction for the villains? All the criticisms that are being made about S2 I can make just as much for S1. The focus has always been on the fights with the story and characters lacking. Like the only difference in this season is that there are actually stakes and consequences. Which is the point of the arc. I feel like you guys are blaming the arc because it didn't go the way you imagined in your head and it didn't progress like a typical shounen. |
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Pokenatic
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Honestly thought Frieren would have been my top anime for the season, but 16bit Sensation truly surprised and pulled ahead the last two weeks.
While I loved watching Scott Pilrgim Takes Off, I couldn't help but feel like something about it kinda held it back a bit. Like, trying to elaborate right now, it kinda feels like the themes of change and reflection feels like it's too wrapped up in the property itself. Or maybe my logic here is just dumb. |
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