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INTEREST: Wonder Egg Priority Director Shares Cut Context for Mannequins' Sexist Dialogue Scene in E

It was pretty clear to me within the context of the show that Acca and Ura-Acca probably aren't the most trustworthy. I'm not really sure why some people took their spiel to be the opinions of the script writer or the director. It's nice of them to provide clarification to those people though. It would be a shame for anyone to fall off one of the best original shows in a long time because of misconceptions, and I hope they continue to address the sensitive subject matter in the show with as much tact as I feel they have so far.

Ura-Acca's line about not discriminating doesn't really seem to follow from Acca's speech, either. In that sense, I think Neiru's disgusted "はあ？" at the end is not just at Acca's speech, but at Ura-Acca reframing her question as discriminatory as a way to avoid really answering it (and at Rika going along with that).

I'm pretty sure Momoe is just a butch cis lesbian. She talks and styles herself in a masculine way so she occasionally gets mistaken for a boy. I did get the impression that she might have considered being a trans boy, but decided against it.

So my problem with a blanket statement being a blanket statement regarding suicide was "corrected" by a second blanket statement but one going in the opposite direction that was cut for time.

When you're in a hole, don't dig yourself deeper!

For people who are fine with the second blanket statement "When it comes to their brains, boys and girls are also the same", please explain so in scientific terms and not through what [b]you want the situation to be.[/b] Just from what I know of the Endocrine system has me facepalming on that second statement.

Beyond the “missing five ounces” of female brain — gloated about since the nineteenth century — modern neuroscientists have identified no decisive, category-defining differences between the brains of men and women. In women’s brains, language-processing is not spread any more evenly across the hemispheres than it is in men’s, as a small 1995 Nature study proclaimed but a large 2008 meta-analysis disproved (B. A. Shaywitz et al. Nature 373, 607–609 (1995) and I. E. Sommer et al. Brain Res. 1206, 76–88; 2008). Brain size increases with body size, and certain features, such as the ratio of grey to white matter or the cross-sectional area of a nerve tract called the corpus callosum, scale slightly non-linearly with brain size. But these are differences in degree, not kind. As Rippon notes, they are not seen when we compare small-headed men to large-headed women, and have no relationship to differences in hobbies or take-home pay.

...The brain is no more gendered than the liver or kidneys or heart. Towards the end, Rippon flirts with the implications of this finding for the growing number of people transitioning or living between current binary gender categories. But for now, she concludes, most of us remain strapped in the “biosocial straitjackets” that divert a basically unisex brain down one culturally gendered pathway or another.

From a review in the scientific Journal of Nature:
...The brain is no more gendered than the liver or kidneys or heart
Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x

Brain size increases with body size, and certain features, such as the ratio of grey to white matter or the cross-sectional area of a nerve tract called the corpus callosum, scale slightly non-linearly with brain size. But these are differences in degree, not kind. As Rippon notes, they are not seen when we compare small-headed men to large-headed women, and have no relationship to differences in hobbies or take-home pay

It’s a review of a book on neuroscience, and the part I quoted explicitly mentions that bigger bodies have bigger organs, so I’m assuming you missed this line?

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Brain size increases with body size, and certain features, such as the ratio of grey to white matter or the cross-sectional area of a nerve tract called the corpus callosum, scale slightly non-linearly with brain size. But these are differences in degree, not kind. As Rippon notes, they are not seen when we compare small-headed men to large-headed women, and have no relationship to differences in hobbies or take-home pay

I think this whole "controversy" is a bit weird, as sexist comments come up in anime fairly often, usually in the context of male characters doubting the abilities of a classmate/coworker/etc because they are female. And I don't mean the old standby excuse of "women are weaker in physical abilities". I just mean "this task is difficult, so a girl might not be able to handle it".

Animegomaniac wrote:

So my problem with a blanket statement being a blanket statement regarding suicide was "corrected" by a second blanket statement but one going in the opposite direction that was cut for time. When you're in a hole, don't dig yourself deeper! For people who are fine with the second blanket statement "When it comes to their brains, boys and girls are also the same", please explain so in scientific terms and not through what [b]you want the situation to be.[/b] Just from what I know of the Endocrine system has me facepalming on that second statement.

From a review in the scientific Journal of Nature:

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Beyond the “missing five ounces” of female brain — gloated about since the nineteenth century — modern neuroscientists have identified no decisive, category-defining differences between the brains of men and women. In women’s brains, language-processing is not spread any more evenly across the hemispheres than it is in men’s, as a small 1995 Nature study proclaimed but a large 2008 meta-analysis disproved (B. A. Shaywitz et al. Nature 373, 607–609 (1995) and I. E. Sommer et al. Brain Res. 1206, 76–88; 2008). Brain size increases with body size, and certain features, such as the ratio of grey to white matter or the cross-sectional area of a nerve tract called the corpus callosum, scale slightly non-linearly with brain size. But these are differences in degree, not kind. As Rippon notes, they are not seen when we compare small-headed men to large-headed women, and have no relationship to differences in hobbies or take-home pay. ...The brain is no more gendered than the liver or kidneys or heart. Towards the end, Rippon flirts with the implications of this finding for the growing number of people transitioning or living between current binary gender categories. But for now, she concludes, most of us remain strapped in the “biosocial straitjackets” that divert a basically unisex brain down one culturally gendered pathway or another.

Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x

Biosocial theory claims that evolution did not design human psychological sex differences. It argues that these are the result of the allocation of men and women into different sex roles, based on physical differences.

Agent355 wrote:

Animegomaniac wrote: So my problem with a blanket statement being a blanket statement regarding suicide was "corrected" by a second blanket statement but one going in the opposite direction that was cut for time. When you're in a hole, don't dig yourself deeper! For people who are fine with the second blanket statement "When it comes to their brains, boys and girls are also the same", please explain so in scientific terms and not through what [b]you want the situation to be.[/b] Just from what I know of the Endocrine system has me facepalming on that second statement. From a review in the scientific Journal of Nature: Quote: Beyond the “missing five ounces” of female brain — gloated about since the nineteenth century — modern neuroscientists have identified no decisive, category-defining differences between the brains of men and women. In women’s brains, language-processing is not spread any more evenly across the hemispheres than it is in men’s, as a small 1995 Nature study proclaimed but a large 2008 meta-analysis disproved (B. A. Shaywitz et al. Nature 373, 607–609 (1995) and I. E. Sommer et al. Brain Res. 1206, 76–88; 2008). Brain size increases with body size, and certain features, such as the ratio of grey to white matter or the cross-sectional area of a nerve tract called the corpus callosum, scale slightly non-linearly with brain size. But these are differences in degree, not kind. As Rippon notes, they are not seen when we compare small-headed men to large-headed women, and have no relationship to differences in hobbies or take-home pay. ...The brain is no more gendered than the liver or kidneys or heart. Towards the end, Rippon flirts with the implications of this finding for the growing number of people transitioning or living between current binary gender categories. But for now, she concludes, most of us remain strapped in the “biosocial straitjackets” that divert a basically unisex brain down one culturally gendered pathway or another. Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x

Again, I'm facepalming. The effects of hormones upon the brain changes how the brain perceives the world. A study that not takes the brain out of the body, nature, as well as the universe, nurture, is fairly useless. In a completely sterile environment, they are the same, yes. However saying they are the same being fueled by each body's particular set of hormones is a blanket statement which is what I'm against.

"Most of us" I can at least credit that article for saying it depends. From Google.... so you know it's accurate?:

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Biosocial theory claims that evolution did not design human psychological sex differences. It argues that these are the result of the allocation of men and women into different sex roles, based on physical differences.

I have zero trust in Psychology as a science as my own experience with it is that people hear one thing they don't like then they try every other theory in the book to run away from it.

I'm almost afraid to see what they site as physical differences. I know I don't like my mind under the effects of testosterone and that's produced from testes. So it's a sexual physical trait creating a psychological perception and this theory is... what exactly?

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Tanteikingdomkey wrote: UNLESS, I am misunderstanding something. You are. The bad guy called her a man since everyone except the main character thought she was a dude. There was no other meaning behind it.

First learn the basic rules of how to quote something. I fixed your quote for you.

Second It was clearly a female who was yelling at her, because she was in the females only car.it would be really strange for a male to be talking like that or be in that situation. Also her "charge" recognized her as a female, and said "even as a girl I've fallen in love with you"

Third This conversation took place in a "realm" where abstract monsters that represent what caused you to commit suicide chase around their victims....So saying it has no meaning I find to be complete and utter bullshit.

Please try and make sure you actually understand a subject in the future before you correct someone else on it