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mangamuscle
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 Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:41 pm
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| Lord Geo wrote: | | .. there should be an anime equivalent to Mill Creek (i.e. one which just does cheap re-releases) |
The reason Mill Creek's business model works is because they rescue properties that were once popular in the mainstream and then forgotten, i.e. their box set of the TV series "highway to heaven" (which I own). But anime has very few that made it into the mainstream and then were forgotten for a company to thrive on only that kind of catalog.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:44 pm
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| mangamuscle wrote: | | The reason Mill Creek's business model works is because they rescue properties that were once popular in the mainstream and then forgotten, i.e. their box set of the TV series "highway to heaven" (which I own). |
Mill Creek puts out plenty of smaller-name re-releases, like the Heisei Gamera trilogy, the Daimajin movies, Sony's dub-only release of Astro Boy, the old BCI Eclipse tokusatsu catalog (Ultraman, Red Baron, etc.), so the company is not just known for vintage mainstream titles.
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:27 pm
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| Lord Geo wrote: | | Mill Creek puts out plenty of smaller-name re-releases |
Chances are those niche releases are part of bulk packages they get from big studios "Hey, so you want that big show that was famous in the 80s, you must buy also three other from this list". At the end of the day it is the well known titles what help to "pay the rent", if you could be profitable only on good old animes that never became franchises like evangelion, then no doubt Tempest would have jumped on that bandwagon ages ago.
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Primus
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:46 pm
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| mangamuscle wrote: |
| Lord Geo wrote: | | Mill Creek puts out plenty of smaller-name re-releases |
Chances are those niche releases are part of bulk packages they get from big studios "Hey, so you want that big show that was famous in the 80s, you must buy also three other from this list". At the end of the day it is the well known titles what help to "pay the rent", if you could be profitable only on good old animes that never became franchises like evangelion, then no doubt Tempest would have jumped on that bandwagon ages ago. |
Yeah, most of Mill Creek's releases come from big library deals with studios. Astroboy 2003, for example, came because Sony Pictures signed an agreement that allows Mill Creek to put out any of their old TV shows/movies that aren't in an active franchise.
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:41 pm
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| invalidname wrote: | | the fans would have no legal standing to license the show |
Legally, nothing stopping anyone from going to a licensor and doing a deal. Of course in practical terms there's issues with raising enough money, and some would be a bit wary of doing business with an unknown, but no problems legally.
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Tetsuryu
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:40 am
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| Quote: | | Sometimes shows will be bundled together, in order to get more shows a release rather than just the hits. "Oh, you want this A+ title from 2001? Sure, but you'll also have to take this crudely animated pervy OVA from 1985 that nobody's heard of." |
Funny thing is, didn't this sort of thing happen with the VHS release of Machine Robo: Revenge of Cronos back in the 90's? It was the one the licensor actually wanted but it was bundled with Dancouga, which actually got released in full while Machine Robo tanked and was canned well less than halfway into the series.
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NJ_
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:39 am
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| Zalis116 wrote: | | The conventional wisdom used to be that titles that did decent sales the first time around had a better chance of getting a re-release. However, Discotek's rescuing of titles like famed Geneon hundred-sellers Cybuster and Demon Lord Dante now have us questioning that wisdom. |
To be fair to Dante, they were already licensing Go Nagai adaptations up to that point (and still do as seen recently with Great Mazinger's release) plus they got the uncensored version, which was something Geneon didn't have. It was also part of the Enoki Films catalog so it may have been part of a package deal judging by the amount of other Enoki titles that Discotek released since (90s Babel II, Izumo, Fighting Foodons (of all things), etc).
| Primus wrote: | | Yeah, most of Mill Creek's releases come from big library deals with studios. Astroboy 2003, for example, came because Sony Pictures signed an agreement that allows Mill Creek to put out any of their old TV shows/movies that aren't in an active franchise. |
Another example is Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad since they got that as part of their deal with Cookie Jar (pre-DHX acquisition) and this also included other titles like Street Sharks & Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters From Beverly Hills.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:02 am
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| NJ_ wrote: | | Fighting Foodons (of all things) |
Mike Toole actually revealed at AnimeNEXT's Discotek panel last year that Fighting Foodons was actually purposefully licensed, & not a forced-in package deal. The founder of Discotek simply noticed that it was available, remembered that it once aired on TV in North America, & thought, "Well, there must be people who remember watching this show, right?"
Hey, this stuff happens sometimes. It's like how Dan Doh!! got licensed by Bandai because the head of the company was a big golf fan, so he wanted to release a golf anime.
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