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BadNewsBlues
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...And?
Okay I'm confused if 99% of Toonami's viewership has seen the entirety of the Pain arc (whereas a number of people quite obviously haven't) why does it being in reruns disqualify it from running on Toonami especially when virtually everything else presently running on Toonami including the anime's you've suggested has already been seen by a large number of people?
Promising series that'll 9 times out of 10 have ratings equal to or much worse than Shippuden.
Given that Boruto is an ongoing series that hasn't even aired it's 20th episode in Japan I'm not seeing why it airing on Toonami is of any importance. This argument will also wind up looking funny in retrospect if Boruto winds up clocking in a 200-300 episodes overall.
Anytime to air anime in the US nowadays is a bad time as no one is hardly running it on major networks compared to what was going on between 1999-2008 .
No it's not.
If these long runners were airing everyday instead of once every week like DragonBall Z did back in the day things would be much much different. One Piece's problem isn't that it's a long runner it's problem was that it was a bit too niche for people compared to your Pokemons, Yu-Gi-Ohs, & DBZs.
For everything on the block or just specific shows? and unless those ratings are hitting the 2 or 4 million mark they're really worth parading around when they're likely still sub-par compared to what shows on other cable networks likely draw.
Toonami would be potentially canceled even if they listen to your suggestions because few people want to sit up til 2 AM to watch stuff they can easily watch legally and illegally at pretty much anytime of the day or just buy on DVD. Last edited by BadNewsBlues on Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:02 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Gina Szanboti
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That's good news, I didn't know that. I can't seem to get around to watching it online, but I've been wanting to, and having it on Toonami will do the trick. Count me as one of those people who like watching whatever they show because of the dubs. Unless it's a title I've loved enough to buy, that's the only way I'll hear the dubs anymore. I'm especially enjoying the Pain arc of Shippuden since it's so rare these days to get to hear Troy Baker outside of video games and I'm not a gamer. I'm also very much looking forward to the Chimera Ant arc of HxH, even though it will be awhile before they get to that. It would be great if they moved up the time slot when that starts up. I also think that older series aren't a bad buy since after 5 years, more people will feel like revisiting those episodes they enjoyed than they would only 6 months or a year after streaming them. I know a lot of people are into the "seen it, moving on" mindset of checking off titles as if there were an award for most series viewed, but if something is good, I think most people also enjoy rewatches if it's put in front of them. It would be cool to have some comedy mixed in, but that's a hard call, since comedy is so subjective. I think KonoSuba would do very well for them though (the milkshake and panty-free Aqua would bring all the boys to the yard), but it's probably out of their price range. |
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Hypeathon
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Regarding the first part, the episodes of Naruto Shippuden currently airing (Pain Invasion arc) are 4 years old from when Viz Media first released them on DVD, they are airing on TV for the first time. Disney X.D only aired up until episode 97 so Adult Swim have been airing episodes yet to premiere on US TV for a year-in-a-half now. Besides the four year gap between the DVD releases and the episodes airing on Adult Swim have been like this since Shippuden first premiered on the block. This is nothing new. Now as for the second part, the sources have varied a bit over the years but it's usually from people who have Neilson boxes or something like that or have watched via DVR or something like that. The problem with how people point out the ratings is that they usually refer to the all age ratings and not the 18-34 or 18-49 male demographic which is what matters Adult Swim. Most people also don't acknowledge how each show does on their own time slot compared to other shows on other channels that target the same demographic at the same time slot. In other words, their competition. On another note, holy crap! I got credited for the update on the article! I wasn't even expecting that. |
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epicwizard
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I'm glad that JoJo will be airing at 12:00 AM. That way, I'll be able to watch it live instead of DVRing it.
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Agent355
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I love Toonami, because watching anime "live" with other fans on Twitter is the next best thing to watching with a group of rl friends. And I end up watching anime I probably wouldn't check out otherwise--like Lupin the 3rd this season.
There are some great extras, too, like original animated music videos and video game reviews, and extra Steve Blum voice acting in general. |
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Covnam
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Geez, I can't even imagine the discussions that must be going on at CN for the time slots to keep changing so often.
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Gina Szanboti
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I don't know how they're doing since their message boards got the ax, but before that I know they've been outperforming pretty much everything else in those time slots, at least compared to shows aiming for that 18-35 male demographic. You can find current ratings (up to July 15th anyway) here. Also, while I haven't been able to track down any charts that look at head to head competition in the wee hours of Saturday night, this chart from last week shows Dragon Ball Super (4th), Kai (5th), AOT (6th) and Tokyo Ghoul (9th) in the top ten of all cable shows for the entire day, and Lupin was 14th, which is pretty good considering most people are in bed after midnight. ![]() |
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SWAnimefan
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I have to agree, I do think the Internet Streaming sites like Crunchyroll did take some thunder out of Cartoon Network's lightning. Why bother waiting for the Dub when you can watch the series off Crunchyroll. Of course there are a few exceptions like Attack on Titan and JoJo's that the series has the energy that you can watch it multiple of times and never get bored.
IMHO, Adult Swim showing multiple long-term series is a mistake, you get into those slow arcs or filler arcs that just drains the life out of viewers. But when they have it on rotation with fresh series, mixed with old popular titles (GitS), it does well. But Adult Swim does it's best when they have exclusivity. Either in a simulcast (Space Dandy) or with their own series (Samurai Jack). That's what I think that's the best option they should pursuit to invigorate the channel. |
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MarshalBanana
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belvadeer
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People really should invest in getting the sister CN channel so they can watch everything in HD starting at 8:30 and finish by midnight. I mean, if they don't want to stay up till 3 AM and can afford it. Perfect way to top off Saturday night.
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Mewzard
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There was only one anime on Toonami in its first year (Voltron). Toonami has always been an Action Block (very few non-action shows in its lifetime). It may be mostly anime now due to how action cartoons (especially for the Adult Swim crowd) have become less common, but it's not an anime block per se. Toonami's always been proud of its identity as an action block. |
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BadNewsBlues
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The fact that they used to run ThunderCats, PowerPuff Girls, The Real Adventures Of Johnny Quest, Megas XLR, Samurai Jack & burned off the episodes of Beware The Batman that CN decided not to air (that people in other regions got to see) should've made it clear they're not an "all" anime block. |
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Agent355
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^Don't forget Sym-Bionic Titan!
![]() And talking about Genndy Tartakovsky, Toonami premiered a new, final season of Samurai Jack this year. How can anyone think Toonami is anime-only? I wonder what its ratings were like--I'd love to get another season of Sym-Bionic Titan. Or even a special... |
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leafy sea dragon
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The real issue is Toonami versus Adult Swim Comedy. Is that going down at about the same rate, or is Toonami losing viewership while Adult Swim Comedy is remaining relatively stable?
I have a similar experience, although it's more because I live with someone who streams on three or four devices at once and is too prideful and stubborn to cut it down. To her, streaming is exactly the same as TV (to where she never ever pauses) for any reason), and she has at least one device on at all hours of the day. It causes our Internet to be unstable and really causes problems for online gaming for me, let alone me streamig my own stuff. Also, Toonami is a social thing here, as most of the time I watch it with at least one other person. Streaming is a solitary activity. (And if anyone asks, during the times she's NOT streaming anything, it's about 10 Mbps download and upload. When she's at full streaming, it drops down to about 1.5 Mbps down and 0.3 Mbps up. Some of her streaming services are poorly programmed.)
They also confirmed Derek Stephen Prince as the voice of Iggy, meaning they're either very far in or they've completed Stardust Crusaders.
Same here. That's going to be a fun one to listen to in English.
It's actually way more convenient for me. I get Cartoon Network East while living on the west coast, so everything comes on three hours earlier.
I can say that the same holds for YouTube too, I've noticed. If you're putting up game footage and you're going for views, comments, or whatever, the best times to put them up are either immediately after the game comes out or long after the game comes out. (Habits have changed since I started in 2008 though.) Comedy rarely gets good ratings on Toonami. Space Dandy and One Punch Man are the only ones I can think of that didn't entirely bomb. (I think Lupin III is currently getting decent numbers--not great, but not terrible.) My impression is that people tune in to Toonami for the action, and they get their comedy elsewhere.
I love Samurai Jack, and the final season was fantastic. It's apparently big enough that it repeatedly made the front page of Rotten Tomatoes. But I think people tend to forget about it because it's unlike anything else that was on the block at the time. I will definitely be picking it up on home video. (As well as Season 3, as I forgot "Jack and the Spartans" and "Jack and the Haunted House" are in that one. I have Season 4 though.) |
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Gina Szanboti
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That's a difficult comparison to make since Saturday is the worst day of the week for tv viewing across the board on both cable and broadcast. Also, tv viewership is down for every network as Netflix, Hulu and other streaming platforms gain those views. As I noted in the post above, Lupin came in 14th last week for all cable programming on Saturday, despite being in the 2 am death slot, so yeah, it's doing pretty good. ![]() |
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