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Hellfish
Posts: 391 Location: Mexico |
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For some reason I imagined the 90% of porn manga published on the United States would be more than 64 pounds and would fit in more than 2 boxes... I guess everyday you learn something new...
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Akcoll99
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I'll never forget walking into a Borders manga section about 10 years ago in Fairfax, Va. and seeing several "Manga 18" titles on the shelf, including Urotsukidoji, Adventure Kid and Midnight Panther volumes. I figured somebody at the home office had made a warehouse buy without knowing (or caring) what they were getting. I don't know if anybody bought them, but they were all gone from the shelves a few weeks later.
And that in itself is the biggest hurdle for adult manga in the US. Where to sell it? Bookstores won't touch it and most comic book/anime stores don't routinely stock it because of the explicit covers and/or fear of some self-appointed morality police making a fuss over it. I'm still a little amazed Amazon has been carrying the Project H titles. It was only several years ago they themselves had a "no porn" policy that affected several ecchi, non-porn anime titles like Media Blasters' release of "A Very Private Lesson." |
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rinmackie
 Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
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The Waldenbooks we used to have here stocked BL, including some of the explicit stuff, which came in wrappers which were often torn off. Though, to the best of my knowledge, no one ever complained. Certainly, not me, of course!
Now Barnes and Noble is the only place left, but they don't stock BL. |
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penguintruth
 Posts: 8468 Location: Penguinopolis |
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Super Taboo was the first manga I ever read.
"What the heck is going on in Japan?" was my reaction. But I still read all of it. |
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Shaterri
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A strange answer to the 'who would sell it?' question: while it's anime rather than Manga, the local Fry's (and IIRC, the ones in the Bay Area too) had (and may still have, though I haven't checked in a while) a surprisingly large (like, multiple display racks' worth) hentai section. For a long time they had the best anime section in general (at least out of big box-level stores), so that's not entirely surprising, but I was still pretty bemused at just how much anime porn they were stocking.
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partysmores
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Actually, I think written is a grey area, considering the number of erotic fanfiction involving high school age anime characters still up, and I recall at least one report site saying not to report written descriptions. |
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enurtsol
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Heh, I remember when these were in comic book stores.
Bush Jr. sure gets around! 
(Click on the image to see the full NSFW picture with the English translation. Yes, that's Asuka.)
BTW, a reminder that Toshio Maeda shows up regularly on US TV whenever CNN reruns this every week.
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Levitz9
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I can testify to that: he came to Puerto Rico for a convention about a year-and-a-half ago, and he was a blast to converse with. His English is really good, and his wife speaks fluently in Spanish. |
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Chagen46
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Eh, licensed and translated porn will never interest me unless they get shotacon/trap manga (which they never will up there).
I just want NemuNemu's Otokonokotic tank. Or Tsuntsun Shichau Otoshigoro, but I assume any possible licensor would be averse to publishing 200+ pages of shotaxloli porn. |
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Mohawk52
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If one is looking for a story in porn, then one is nescient of just what it's really for.
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patrickdrazen
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What interests me is the more unique subgenres that aren't orthodox in western porn, and the uses the audience has for them. Beyond prurient interest, of course. I'm currently writing a study on some of the recurring themes in futanari manga. Some of it at least tries for plausibility, while some is straight-up farce, but they obviously must serve a need or the subgenre wouldn't be as big as it is. Has anyone else thought about this topic, or read up on it, or even written about it?
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doc-watson42
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Actually, I recall Toren Smith commenting on the Studio Proteus Web site that Manabe seemed to have lost interest in licensing his manga (due to the hassles involved; this was when SP and Dark Horse were publishing Drakuun (c. 1999)). I tried to find the actual reference, but in the middle of my search the Wayback Machine's copy of the site stopped responding.
Tin? :-p~ Trn all the way!
It's probably all graphic novel collections—if it included the original comic book publications there would be several more boxes (I can personally attest to this ).
"The Angels Will Not Stop" ("Tenchi-tachi wa Tomarani") by Aoi Makita, the first of the four stories in Jack Seward's Japanese Eroticism: A Language Guide to Current Comics (Houston: Yugen Press, 1993; no ISBN) is purported to be Lolicon, though it really is about futanari of the inkakuhidai (clitoris enlargement) sub-type. It may technically qualify, depending upon where it was originally published. |
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Mohawk52
Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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anond
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Just registered to thank you for this article. (Although the end reads more like a disclaimer to cover your posterior.) It was very informative, especially in regard to what happened at ErosComix. Such a loss can probably not be filled in by anyone. My annoyance over the de-announced Kisaragi Gunma titles and second volume of Hatsu Inu seems inappropriate considering that.
I can attest to what the article says. Mangerotica knew exactly what they were doing. The English Hatsu Inu release is a full improvement over the Japanese release. It's based on the Japanese (all ages!) re-release, but is completely uncensored. That's why it's especially sad the second volume will probably never make its way overseas. I agree that the licensing decisions have deteriorated. Mangerotica had the one or other book that isn't for everyone, but every single book was a quality license and they used high quality paper for printing. Now in contrast, especially looking at Project-H, I get somewhat sad and almost angry. A while ago I heard from someone he bought a mixed lot of about hundred hentai manga off yahoo auctions, since they were so cheap. This is the feeling their line-up gives off and they print it on toilet paper at that. Sure, there are stellar licenses in their portfolio, like (I'm using the English titles here) the entire Yamatogawa catalog or Hisasi's "Cute Devil Girlfriend". There are good or even great licenses like Tokihara Masato's "Coffin of Cerebrum", NICO-PUN-NISE's "Fruitful Body", Tadakata Kawasaki's "I'm Coming With You", Shikishirokonomi's "Fantasy Hentai: School Girls" or both Yasuiriosuke manga. Nevertheless, all these good manga get submerged by a wave of simply hideous Takeshobo licenses that for the most part aren't even hentai by Japanese standards and run in magazines for people below 18. That's borderline at best. Now, don't get me wrong, borderline manga can be great as well, and there are good licenses in that pile. Like Velvet Kiss, Parasite Doctor Suzune or the Ponkotsu Works books. That doesn't change the majority is completely forgettable storywise and/or the art is so bad that you rather want to laugh than get aroused. Then Project-H become able to license titles from Kill Time Communication, and what do they do? Mostly license goddamn anthologies whose well-known business model is to trick the customer by having a great cover but cheap low-quality content. It's like they know absolutely nothing about the material they are working with. This infuriates me more than anything else on the English manga market at the moment. (Okay, maybe licensing a manga instead of the LN it's based on comes close.) There are so many great artists the English market hasn't seen yet that exactly remedy what this article laments about. Homunculus, the master of vanilla. Hanaharu Naruko, always exploring extremely strange, inventive and arousing situations that at the same time don't feel freakish. Akatsuki Myuuto with his outlandish harem settings. Tuna Empire, HOLY SHIT I DON'T EVEN. Namonashi, author of the best full-length consentacle manga known to man. ...Yukimi, tosh, Katsura Yoshihiro, Hyokoro, Yuiga Naoha, Sameda Koban, Hakaba, Shimimaru, Napata... So much potential, so much waste and a market flooded with subpar garbage. |
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Levitz9
Posts: 1022 Location: Puerto Rico |
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Project H has one advantage: they're extremely open to fans and fan suggestions, and they are actively looking for feedback on everything--everything. They can't guarantee acting on every suggestion that's sent to them, but they're guaranteed to give it consideration. Check 'em out on Twitter, Tumblr, or their own forums: they've got an open comm-link with their fans, and they're not afraid to use it. I think that what DMP needs most is someone competing with them. I don't want to imply that they're lazy--the sheer number of their output in the past two years alone is nuts--but it'd be nice to have something or someone covering all of the things DMP hasn't yet. Also, big fist-bump for Hanaharu. *brofist* |
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