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skyesage
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God, someone's view is different from mine? Get over yourselves. Mostly I just read here but this is ridiculous. They are all being very nice to Geass (3.5 of 5 is GOOD PEOPLE) and who cares if they like xxxHolic more? What do they even have in common? Really nothing, except for the fact that CLAMP did the character art.
That said, ohman am I happy that they made an anime of Nabari No Ou. That manga is hilarious, and my friend will be happy to hear about it. I think the new format is awesome and a lot more fair. Casey, I think I'll be going with your reviews the most because a) you are the ONLY GIRL (I think, why isn't Bamboo reviewing, she too busy?) b) you are new and c) your tastes seem to go along with mine. ...Also its always refreshing to see people who aren't all OOOOHHHH SERIOUS 5 of 5! 
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babbo
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Having read a couple chapters of the manga (as casey seems to have what with her comments on the art style and the light novels) I think I have to say that people who are rating it highly based on the episodes thus far are in for a bit of a let down. They just toyed around with the order of the events. The first few chapters of the manga set an absolutely different (and certainly more typical) tone. When I turned on the first ep I was getting ready for it to present itself as a shouen show with shounen character interaction. They can't keep up this whole dramatic/slice of life thing forever without drastically walking away from the source material. That's not to say that I dislike the show, but I'd say it hardly has master piece potential.
It's melodrama pure and simple. It's either going to appeal to someone or it isn't. I personally think it fits his character's intentions pretty well (most great orators tend to have a booming voice and like to gesture, especially in war time). But even if makes sense that doesn't mean everyone's going to like it in their anime<.< Last edited by babbo on Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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CerebralDivinity
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Shippoyasha has a legitimate point here that I think you're missing: the reviews vary heavily. He never states that this is bad. He goes on to say that the reviews focus heavily on stereotypes, which also seems to be the case. As far as the ANN staff, your responses haven't been any different than the users who have posted here. Aren't they allowed to disagree with you? Isn't it okay that they dislike a review? To condemn this as a complaint is shallow; you should think of it as feedback. Personally, I agree with those who think that the reviews are overly critical (in general). When looking at a first episode for a new series, one really shouldn't just take that episode individually for its face value. The point of a review to to persuade or dissuade a reader from watching the anime. It's way too early to judge an entire series as good or bad; you need to look for potential, anything new or interesting, and what qualities someone who might be interested in the anime might want to know. That (in my opinion) should be the goal of those reviewing the early episodes of an anime. |
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Vortextk
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The reviews are different because they're coming from different people.
As far as overly critical of the first episodes, yeah I can kind of see that. And I don't know how many times this has to be stated:
They aren't judging the series, but only what they are presented with. Call it a preview of the series, or a review of the episode. If they say "I think this will turn out worse in later episodes", it's a GUESS, not a review. |
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CerebralDivinity
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I never said that this wasn't what the reviewers were doing - I was just giving my take on it. I think that a lot of the time, they are straying away from the idea of previewing, and to some degree, making blanket statements about the series, or the genre. |
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Monsieur Pink
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Oh come on guys! Overly critical? Hardly, I'd personally be a lot harsher on some of the series (and more generous on only one or two of them).
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Key
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Disliking or disagreeing with a review is fine. We and the editors do get a bit prickly when said disagreements start hedging towards (or outright being) personal attacks, however, and a couple of comments on this list have at the very least come close to that.
We see this kind of comment on a regular basis when doing preview guides or reviews of first volumes of series. (In the latter case such complaints usually come from those who have seen the whole series in fansubs and are disgruntled that its early episodes are getting bashed, but that's obviously not the case here.) I have two responses to it: 1) Although we can choose to "persuade or dissuade" if we want, the point of a review is actually to review. We put out there what it is, say how we evaluate it, how it compares (or doesn't) to similar titles, and so forth. Sure, sometimes I'll slant my comments so I'm actively promoting a series or, more rarely, recommending against it, or I'll comment to the effect that a title is particularly well-suited (or not) to certain types of fans, but other times I honestly have no opinion and just lay it out there. 2) I do "look for potential" and often make comments to that effect; if you haven't noticed that then you haven't been paying attention. However, sometimes you also have to acknowledge that no potential exists, at least based on what's been shown so far. And geez, why are people complaining now about opinions being too diverse? Some of the earliest complaints were about the opinions being too similar (e.g. Kanokon). |
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nekotenshi
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Yeah, once I got hold of a decent copy of the first episode I fell for it big-time. As you say, storyline seems typical enough to start with, but such pretty character designs, nice handling of the fight scenes and supernatural effects (that "skin-crawling text" reminded me of something similar-looking from Mushishi), and I love the delicate watercolor quality of the backgrounds and scenery. Off to a fine start IMHO. |
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Animedude35
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I think that this preview guide is great because it gives me different opinions about the new season of anime. I believe that everyone that's complaining about how bias the reviews are are just jealous of the reviewers because thier opinions are in the spotlight while their views are not.
It's always okay to agree and disagree, but everyone's gotta remember that these reviews are all opinion and express the opinions of the reviewer only and not the site itself. Anyways keep up the good work reviewers and I congratulate ANN.com on sticking with this new format. |
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Westlo
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Those Kure-nai manga chapters are side stories made by the illustrator of the light novels. So please don't base the actual light novel on those events, think of them as linking between novels events and how the cast interact once they all know each other. If anything the darker scenes/flashbacks from the magna are probably stuff from the novels. Like spoiler[Beniko killing everyone about to kill the young Kurenai and Ginko.] The light novels are pretty much a full arc and not full of side stories. Anyway I don't know why Casey thinks this is going nowhere. Isn't a show allowed to build up characters anymore? |
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loka
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thanks for upgrading the season preview article ANN. i really like it and find this much improved from the past format(s).
although i'm not a big fan of the point rating. but it certainly gives fodder to the talkback. |
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Big Hed
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Don't know if I'm being thick by asking this, but is Casey referring to a specific show the the end off her XXXHolic: Kei ep 2 review, or does she just mean that perhaps established fans would generally do better to check out other stuff (I'm already doing this as it happens, since I already love the manga)?
Continuing to love the new format. I am definitely watching a LOT more from this season than I would otherwise have done under the previous preview style. Looking forward to yet more reviews. |
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babbo
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So they're part of the story right? Again, the character relations, the plot, they're all very typical shounen stuff (murausaki's obsession with shinkurou verging on creepy); even some of the things we've seen in the anime verge on the ridiculous (ie typical as far as shounen manga/anime). A high school girl that is able to collect data for a (high school) guy who does professionals jobs? You've even got a high school head of a uber dojo. And if that's the aftermath, then that just means the character interaction will degerate into typical stuff. Additionally, in the anime most of the cast seem to already be introduced to each other the same as in the manga, so it seems strange that you would say that. And again, I'm not saying it's bad. I just don't see this as the master piece some people claim it has to potential to be; there's definitely other stuff that I'd rather watch. |
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Westlo
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The FMP side stories animated as Fumoffuu are apart of the story, is that anything like how the main part plays out?
Of course it's shounen, the novels are released on a shounen label after all and the manga runs in the Jump Square. What will you point out next? That fanservice shows like To Love Ru and Kanokon have no plot?
How preposterous! How could anything like that happen in an anime!
No it's not strange saying that since the main female character hasn't even met half the cast yet. Have his room mates met Yuuno and Ginko? Have Benika met Yuuno and Ginko?
Good for you. |
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babbo
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Wow. Is that a straw man I smell burning? I fail to see how purely comedic side stories are a fair comparison here. From what I've seen of the manga it's been digging into the characters' past. Not providing a comic relief. The fact that they are side stories does nothing to invalidate their relevance to asessing the characters and the story's merits.
Typical shounen. There's eventually a harem for God's sakes.
Not preposterous. Typical. If I had the time I could probably get you a dozen other anime that rely on the same character archetypes >.>
Fine, yo've got me there. I just don't see how that changes the eventual outcome.
chilax <.< I'm not insulting you. I'm discussing merits of a cartoon. You're acting silly here. |
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