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sonicdahedgie
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There shall be no mentioning of voice actors in this thread. NONE.Or animation quality. Or art quality.
I'm looking for the smaller things that annoy you. Stuff that may be present in the writing or the background music. Tropes that you feel are never used correctly. Repetitive camera angles. Stuff we might not normally discuss. Let me get started and give some examples... ____ 1: In every series, there seem to always be ONE man who can be near a woman without blushing, stuttering or generally acting like an idiotic high school. Even worse, this one man is RARELY the protagonist. The reason I hate this is that, while being suave helps establish the character of that one person, everyone else's characters deteriorate from it. Often, the characters grouped with everyone else are not the type to act in such a way around women, yet they still do. Is it not wrong to ask for there to be more than two ways characters act around women? 2: In any show with slapstick comedy, a character gets injured. This is ALWAYS followed by cutting to the building or location they're in/at, and panning up to the sky while the character screams in pain. STOP DOING THE SAME THING. EVER. FREAKING. TIME. 3: Sometimes, background music just doesn't fit. This isn't the fault of the composer, as they compose the soundtrack separately from the anime. But there are sometimes when the music just...doesn't fit. One of the times I've REALLY noticed is in Spice and Wolf. While the music in S&W is great, and I really love it, there's is precisely ONE song on the entire soundtrack that fits whenever "shit gets real." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgFKc2-OMV8 Great song, right? The only problem is that Spice and Wolf is very talky, even at the climax. As I watched the series, the song was used once when actual action was going on. Every other time, it played while people were talking economics. 4: There's a certain character type that I hate instinctively. Which character type, you ask? "That whore." You know which one I'm talking about. The one who comes in halfway through an anime, and blocks all romantic development between the two leads like a freakin' brick wall. The girl you KNOW he's going to end up with and you WANT him to end up with has spent 12 episodes realizing she likes the dude and she's juuuust about to tell him her feelings when the whore appears. "I love you, XXXX-kun!" she shouts, and suddenly the female protagonist loses all confidence in herself. She becomes withdrawn, silent, and bitchy until the finale episode of the show, upon which she randomly gives up on the dude and points out to him that the OTHER girl likes him. The episode ends with him chasing after the first girl, who had just given up on being with him because she assumed he would choose Ms.Skank over her, they kiss, and cut to credits. That's all I can think of. What irks you guys? [/list] |
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John Casey
 Posts: 1853 Location: In My Angry Center |
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In all of anime and manga, there is one thing that annoys me more than anything. More like one person: Ken Akamatsu.
Tropes are very...subjective. But this guy? Movies like...Manos, Robot Monster, and Driller Killer have more taste and artistic sensibilities than anything this fool puts out. But that's just my opinion... |
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the Rancorous
 Posts: 2248 Location: Hunting the Dragon in Gransys |
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I have a couple: 1. The overuse of Tsundere. Now, let me clear up that I am not an anti-tsundere dude; I like Toradora and am enjoying Okami-san. What I'm tired of is how it seems to be a fail-safe so to speak for many writers; like, "Oh, I know, let's add a tsundere character!" and said character is only 'the tsundere,' that's their only distinguishing trait. And then they overblow it to all hell. Many of these characters say the exact same lines as other tsunderes' from other shows and can be interchanged with them with no noticeable effect and it's just so cheap. I know this happens to some extent to a lot of popular archetypes, but I really feel the tsundere is the one this happens to the most. 2. Needlessly flamboyant gay guy. Seriously... it's not funny anymore and wasn't that funny to begin with. And yes, I know its not just anime that does it, and yes I equally dislike it in general. On plot and story: 1. Unresolved romances. Come on, if you're going to make a show with a definite main-romance-interest, just finalize it. Based on an h-game? Well, choose one of them to be the main interest and go with that story. As much as I like to rip on Shuffle!, I will always give it credit for spoiler[choosing a winner.] That's all for now... |
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kakitamike
 Posts: 183 Location: Akron, OH |
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I've gotten tired of the male lead that is absolutely terrified at the thought of touching a girl, let alone one jumping in his bed. I wouldn't even mind if he just acted curious or analytical about it. I don't want to see them get red faced, get a nose bleed, and then crab walk as fast as possible out of the area. For once, I'd like to see the guy wake up with the random scantily clad girl and just be like, "Cool".
Along those same lines, I'm tired of the female next-door/childhood friend that over-reads every situation. There are misunderstandings, and there are blatant wrong interpretations just to give the character an excuse to punch or hit the male lead. If you chase a criminal into the night wearing nothing but a pistol, don't hit the male lead when he sees you naked. Realize it's your own damn fault. I think Shuffle ruined me with decent character reactions (yes I know how crazy that may sound) and viewpoints. I guess I'm just tired of harem character tropes. I still enjoy the occasional bakeoff or a girl's inability to crack an egg or make an omelette. |
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Spastic Minnow
 Bargain HunterExempt from Grammar Rules  Posts: 4632 Location: Gainesville, FL |
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I guess I can repeat what I was just complaining about in the Ookami thread, it's something I've complained about in other threads recently as well and should not be considered only a jab at Ookami, which may extract itself from this trap
And that is the aproximately three episode ending arc that is repeated to death in (often romantic) comedy/action anime. how many 12 episode shows work like this? eps. 1-9 Fun comedy episodes in which action is light and used to build character. Only hints are given to a deeper plot. then the switch for the finale, action and drama are suddenly incongruently switched with comedy as main and secondary focuses. ep.10- Through the course of the episode our hero(es) is tricked by a flimsy plot device and damsel(s) is captured. ep.11- Our hero(es) mount a counter-attack and the hero is (shock!) beaten by the bad guys, damsel(s) remains in control of bad guys. Bad guy tells hero why hero is a loser and why damsel should stay with bad guy. Hero(es) mope around, pondering how weak and hopeless he is and how damsel might be better off with bad guy (often melds into ep.12) ep.12 - Hero(es) "buck up" mount another attack and depending on the series either use new moves or go back to original fighting style (whichever didn't work in previous episode). Damsel(s) also stops being practically useless and participates in victory, everyone works together For The Win! The part I hate the most about this set-up is the "moping period." It can sometimes take up an entire episode and can usually be fast forwarded through if you have the option (but you're trapped in most streaming scenarios). The series I watched recently that had the worst example of this set-up was Samurai Harem (Asu no Yoichi) but aspects of it can also be seen in much better shows like Kure-nai (especially the extended moping sequence) and even My Bride is a Mermaid(strong girl rendered practically useless) those last two improve greatly on some aspects of the formula but in general this formula really annoys me. |
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garfield15
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[EDIT: Reasons. -TK]
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lkplkplkp3
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I second with the 2nd complaint that "the Rancorous" made. I also agree with "sonicdahedgie's" 1st complaint, though there are a handful of titles that have a few different male characters that act more than 2 different ways around women. But almost never more than 5 or 6. there's the blushing geek, the confident jerk, the wise old man, the really good (gay) friend, etc.
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Megiddo
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Eh, there are a lot of things that annoy me in anime. For now, I'll focus on one particular thing that ticks me off, particularly with shounen romances: the lead ending up with the childhood friend/cousin/whatever instead of the girl who has been actually developed into a romantic interest.
My first instance of this, at least the first one that got me upset, was Canvas2. Now, the series spends 23/25 episodes weaving a pretty decent romance between this male teacher and another female teacher. I thought for sure that they would be able to go further in their relationship, but what ends up happening? 10 minutes into the last episode, the main character has a freakin' epiphany: spoiler[I love my cousin!] and that's without even really have any romantic involvement with her beforehand. It was just awful writing and I've rewritten that ending in my head so that it actually ends as it should have. More instances of this can be found in True Tears, Kimikiss, and Da Capo amongst others. Really I think what happens is that the pairing I'm rooting for never wins. And that ticks me off sometimes. Especially in Canvas2 and True Tears. |
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Rukiia
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The one thing that annoys me the most in a number of anime series is the characters repetitively saying another character's name over and over and over.
For example (not bashing the voice actresses, just the script). In Eureka 7 there would always be a scene of Eureka looking up with her hand resting over her chest area sighing "Renton". I counted her saying his name about 20 times (maybe not that same pose but she would say Renton's name after he says something to her) in a single episode. It would be cute at first, but when it is overused it gets really annoying. Its a little over dramatic. -.-; And its not just this particular anime, it happens in quite of number of them. I don't get why they do that so much. 
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lkplkplkp3
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I agree with him ^ ^ ^. Have you ever heard Kagome calling InuYasha about 10 times in a row? Gets to be an annoyance...
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Mister V
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That falls into person-bashing that the OP specifically stated should be left out of this thread. And - just saying - dislike towards a person would be more subjective than dislike towards a trope. More and more things have started annoying me lately. It's like, I can't watch most series without grumbling "oh why is this here" (unless I have very low expectations of the show, or it does exactly what I expect it to). Basically, take most of the stuff said above, add most of the shounen clichés... wait, it's just easier to say that, like everything else, anime is subject to Sturgeon's law, and that those 90% are annoying in one way or another. Lately I've been getting more and more tired of the trope/cliché that has to do with a character who's a pilot of some machine. I'm not even talking about the one where some boy gets into a machine and starts piloting it right away, no - it's the one where the machine continues to work because of the pilot's will to fight. No, planes will not fly without wings because you shout. At the moment, this is the trope I wish to see deconstructed. In character types, lately the number one annoyance is the soft-voiced moe girl. Yes, despite being a Haruhi fan, I wouldn't like Mikuru, if the series actually treated it seriously (but it's all a clever play, so I don't mind that much). In general, I agree that there's a definite lack of characters who act rationally and are cool - even if the Japanese themselves would generally consider that "kakkoii" (at least adults... I'm not sure about the target audiences). |
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Unicorn_Blade
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Repeating the same phrases and repetitive dialogue is something Im not too fond of.
- Ill protect you. Ill always protect you. Ill protect you even if it costs me my life. Ill protect you no matter what. Eureka 7 that someone above mentioned had this one said by different characters hundreds of times, it was also a big line in Wolf's Rain and Blood+ (off the top of my head, but I can think of many more), and I hear it way too often in many other series, like if the characters needed to remind everyone 5 times per episode what their motvation is. There is a number pf phrases like that ("I believe in you" with a variation to "Believe in me" is another one) that are heavily abused in most series. If you had those two lines erased or banned from dialogues, many series would become silent movies. Maybe the makes have the rule that if you dont stuff one of those in the script at least a few times, the whole thing is not really count as anime? Also, the calling name issue. A guy sees his friend, he know who he is and we know who he is, and he still needs to say his name. It gets even worse when one of the characters has an alias, like in Gungrave. - Branon Heat... No, Beyond the Grave That later on gets changed to - Beyone the Grave, no, Brandon Heat... I dont know why every time characters see someone they need to say who he is, or even worse, yell it out loud (Origin: Spirits of the past had the main character whose 99% of dialogue consisted of yelling "Tullaaaaaaaaaaaaa") |
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Mister V
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^ Those are all mostly shounen tropes, aren't they.
I agree with the childhood friend thing. Sometimes they just use it to up the ante (like right now, in Kaichou, and it's damn annoying). |
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KURURUPON
 Posts: 1 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands |
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This is only in fighting anime and stuff like that, but something that really bugs me is that with fights, when someone wants to attack someone from behind, like, an assassination, they always scream the name of the attack they're using. If you want to ASSASSINATE someone, in other words, a surprise attack, then seriously why would you notify your opponent of your attack. I don't see how you would surprise attack someone like that, I've never seen silent surprise attack in anime. They must exist, but I never saw them.
Also, when there is a dramatic scene going on, all of a sudden wind starts blowing. I know this is to make it more dramatic, but to me it just doesn't make sense. And it looses its impact because it's overused. I would love to see an anime that kind of breaks loose from all those 'habits'. |
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Sengura
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I get annoyed sometimes with cliche'd episodes like the obligatory Hot Springs episode, or the School trips to Shinto Shrines episode. It's funny how almost every anime out there try to put a Hot Springs ep in there, I remember watching this sci-fi anime (whos name escapes me at the moment) involving mecha and war, and I found it so ridiculous that they would throw in a Hot Springs ep and then cover it up with a "Oh hey, there's an absondoned planet, let's stop there to rest. Oh hey this abandoned planet used to be a water harvesting planet with old machinery that still works (by melting the ice). Oh hey, this melted water is exactly the same temperature as a traditional Japanese Hot Springs complete with male/female separating sheet of ice, and exact deepness. I know, let us forget about the actual plot for a moment and just chill here for a bit.
I'm also beginning to become annoyed with those overly cliche'd, one dimensional, personality traits. Like the sporty girl/guy who is good at everything physical. The shy nerdy girl with round-framed glasses. The overly good natured guy/girl they will go out of their way and put their lives in danger to save that poor cat from falling from the tree, they are angels incarnate! PLEASE LOVE THEM AND BECOME EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO THEM, for they are the incarnation of Jesus/Buddha. Most of the time these girls are the main love interest because, I don't know, the Japanese prefer subservient women? The defiant girl who's always breaking the rules and 'free willed' Haruhi fits this perfectly and with her success came a tsunami of Haruhi clones. Fan service, if I wanted cheap excuses to look at panties, I'd just watch a Hentai. Rushed endings. Perfect example would be Toradora and Clannad S2. They just seemed rushed like "OK, we had a good run, time to make a bullshit excuse or a cheap no-depth/no-sense way to jerk some tears out of our 12 yo viewer base and end this." Last edited by Sengura on Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:25 am; edited 1 time in total |
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