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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Actually, there seem to be a couple of things wrong with the scoring. And I don't mean that jokingly.
First of all, I'm tied with Aylinn on 129 points. But my rank is third while Aylinn's rank is fifth. Key, who is one point behind us is in fourth place. That's just nuts. Secondly, Aylinn got eight points in the last round, and I got four. If we are equal in points now, then that would have meant I was on 125 (and in third place) and he was on 121 (and in fifth place). And yet, the scoring sheet says that I was the one who went up a rank, not Aylinn; it should actually say that he went up TWO ranks, from outright fifth to third-equal. Basically, it looks like the ranks have not been updated. |
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Aylinn
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Group B-29
Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs. Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss Straw Hat Pirates I'm not familiar with One Piece, but it seems they are strong contenders. Plus, I'm not sure if Parakiss Label is that great to advance. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 Gekkostate I'm not familiar with the other team and there are arguments whether they are better, so I vote for the one I'm familiar with. I may change my vote if there are good arguments for the other team.
It's not a problem, but I'm a female. |
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Skylark
 Posts: 827 Location: ORE NO TSHIRT |
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I'm copying this here for convenience, but this is essentially my argument I put forward when they were against Hotel Moscow (which I also think would have been easily capable of ousting Gekkostate here had they gone through):
That, coupled with my comments about why Gekkostate shouldn't go through in my voting post, should be enough to at least warrant a debate. I don't think either team will really stand a chance against the straw hat pirates but I honestly think Pumpkin Scissors is a more tightly knit team. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Sorry about that. You aren't the first person whose gender I've gotten wrong, and you won't be the last. That's just how the Internet is. But I will remember that you're female, I promise. Last edited by dtm42 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:12 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the scoring, it's the placing that's out of whack. The order people are listed in is correct as well, it's just I forgot to update the placing. I've sent the corrected list to ccdx, it should be fixed soon. |
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mow123
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Group B-29
Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs. Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss Straw Hat Pirates They are willing to save their fellow crew mates despite the danger that they may face. Not the most realistic or most coordinated team, but the level of heart they demonstrate is quite astounding. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 Gekkostate Neither team is perfect, but I would rather pick a team that is competent and effective over one that might be slightly more tight-knit and neither of the former. Both teams have strong bonds, but it is true that there are personal scuffles that occasionally arise in Gekkostate. As it stands, Gekkostate is the better team, especially when I recall arguments from this round and previous rounds that call into question their competence, organization, and level of success. If I remember correctly, at least one poster in particular had some quite negative things to say about the Pumpkin Scissors last round concerning their competence, lack of organization, and failures, and after rereading his arguments, I'm starting to regret voting for them over Hotel Moscow. |
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Key
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 Posts: 18458 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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Really? No other votes at all over the weekend? That's kinda sad. It isn't like both of these match-ups are blow-outs, either. (Well, one is.)
Anyway, I waited unusually long to vote partly because I never got around to voting earlier and partly because I wasn't sure about the second match-up and wanted to see what opinions others were posting first. Group B-29 Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs. Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss I don't think that Parakiss is getting the credit they're due here, but arguments in favor of the Straw Hat Pirates are enough to convince me to keep voting for them - for now. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 This is the one I wasn't sure about. I nominated both, and like both, but after looking at other arguments I'm now convinced that Gekkostate deserves to advance here. Pumpkin Scissors is a worthy team, but despite its flaws Gekkostate functions better overall as a combined unit, especially once Holland gets over his hang-ups about Renton. |
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abunai
Old Regular
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OK, OK, so I guess I can pull myself together and vote.... Group B-29 Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs. Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss Really, I do love the ParaKiss crowd, they're a wonderful gang... but there is absolutely no way they can stand up to the Straw Hats. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 I don't really care who wins here... they're not exactly anime that have moved me deeply. However, just to have an opinion, any opinion, I'm giving my vote to Gekkostate. Why? Because.... um.... because... um... well, because. Sorry, that's the best justification I can give in a match which leaves me mightily indifferent. - abunai |
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murph76
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Group B-29
Voting for: Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece Reason: From everyone's arguments, they sound like one of the teams to beat in the tournament. Group B-30 Voting for: State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors Reason: Gekkostate left me cold. I haven't finished the series, so haven't seen the areas where members come together as a unit, but their teamwork has nowhere to go but up from what's depicted in the first part of the series. SS3 is united in its goal and its members truly believe in that goal, overcoming doubts and the occasional grumbling from members about how action-oriented the unit has become. |
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nightjuan
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Group B-29
Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs. Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss Voting for: Straw Hat Pirates. While the other team does seem to have a good amount of development and isn't uninteresting, according to the arguments and examples presented thus far the Straw Hats are willing to go to great lengths in order to help each other and have established some strong bonds between them. Comparatively speaking, they appear to be superior. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 Voting for: State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors) Why? Primarily due to Skylark's statements. This may be the less efficient team, at least from the looks of it, but that doesn't mean they are inherently worse in terms of their internal dynamics and I'm not too thrilled about some of the Gekkostate's previously mentioned issues. |
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ccdx
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Group B-29
Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs. Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss Pretty easy choice. The Straw Hat Pirates operate well together, each using their own unique skills contributing to whatever obstacle they all face. The more I watch of ParaKiss the harder I find it to classify them as a team. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 Going with Gekkostate. They have their hangups early on, but once that's over and done with they accomplish great things. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
Posts: 5344 Location: Philly |
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I'd been holding off on this one as I'm not terribly familiar with either series in the B-30 and had been rather uncertain as to who to choose.
Group B-29 Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece vs Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss Voting for: Straw Hat Pirates Because: Parakiss is a good group, friendly and supportive, but the Straw Hats have that gung-ho I'll die for my friends attitude. Group B-30 State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors vs. Gekkostate, Eureka 7 Voting for: Gekkostate Because: A close call for me, but for a military unit, Pumpkin Scissors doesn't seem to plan its operations out enough and seems to have a tendency to wing it. The Gekkostate seems to be a little more prepared when they run into difficult situations, and their most commonly cited flaw seems to be resolved about halfway through, so I don't feel bad about picking them to advance. |
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Key
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Posts: 18458 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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Round 4 Group B is now closed.
Final results: Straw Hat Pirates knocks out Parakiss 15-1 in the first match and Pumpkin Scissors, despite hanging tough early, fades late and ultimately falls 10-6 to Gekkostate. The vote total is a concern. We've only broken into the 20s once in the past five weeks. If vote totals don't rebound soon then there may be a much more lengthy hiatus at the end of this tournament, which at this point is expected to be the 25th of January. Anyway, I'm a bit behind on getting the next round set up. Hopefully it'll be up soon. |
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Key
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Posts: 18458 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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Round 4 Group C is now closed.
We've got another three-way match at stake here, but somehow I think someone will win with a majority in that one. The first match-up looks pretty strong, too. Group C-29 Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise vs. MITHRIL, Full Metal Panic! franchise Winner: MITHRIL Total: 10-9 Group C-30 Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club vs. Mew Mews, Tokyo Mew Mew vs. Band of the Hawk, Berserk Winner: OHSHC Total: 14-0-5 Last edited by Key on Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:21 am; edited 1 time in total |
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marie-antoinette
 Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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Group C-29
Voting for: Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise Reasons: I'm not as familiar with MITHRIL as I would like to be (FMP is one of those series on my list of things I would like to watch one day) but having read all the arguments for them I still think the Sailor Scouts are more deserving of my vote. Group C-30 Voting for: Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club Reasons: Because the Mew Mews are only still around because they were lucky and Band of the Hawk shouldn't have advanced past round 1, IMO. Also, the Host Club is awesome and if they and the Scouts do win this round then I will have a very hard time in the next one. |
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