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Albion Hero
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What Beijing animation does anyone even know? I can't think of any... so I have a tough time believing they are real competition on a worldwide scale.
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Touma55
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I was wondering the same thing. Despite him making it sound like Japan has been beaten or something I think the reality is more that he is afraid one day they could be beaten. |
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xxmsxx
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I think from a Japanese perspective, Chinese animation is a real competition. It doesn't have to compete with Disney or French animation on the world stage to compete with Japanese animation, both are also real competition as well, financially and/or stylistically.
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Hoppy800
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China? Competition? No, not even close at least for anime, they are competition against western animation though. The west would be competition to Japan pretty easily if anime like Castlevania were made in much larger quantities.
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Junovm
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Not true. Hardly anyone watches chinese animations, and theres hardly any discussions surrounding them, if at all. Anime is more popular than ever infact.
And if he looks for innovation, look no further than The Girl From the Other Side or even upcoming Uzumaki series. |
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sirdano1
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I think Tomino's going senile...
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kuma991
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I feel I have to agree with him. Japan hasn't produced anything original in a long while now. Everything is isekai or a rehash of the same old story. The days of heart-felt revolutionary stories that inspire other filmmakers all over the world are over. And in this context, China does produce stuff that feel like a breath of fresh air. Meanwhile, what do anime fans have to look forward to? The years of Demon Slayer knock-offs?
As for Uzumaki and The Girl from the Other Side - I'll reserve my opinion till they're released. |
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MakiharaMeiko
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He's not wrong, tho. I'm not gonna say the obvious (like how many low quality anime is in TV nowadays, how many poor payed animators are in the industry, etc), so I'm just going to say that "Spare Me Great Lord!" opening have a quality that far exceeds any japanese anime opening production xD So yeah, maybe in a few years japanese animation is no longer the leader.
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Weird Guy
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Go home you're drunk
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Kicksville
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"But everything is fine now" is missing the point of this kind of speech: it's to light a fire under people's butts. "But everything is fine now" is the complacency being warned against.
I'm reminded of how not long ago, people scoffed at Chinese games being capable of competing internationally outside of maybe a few other countries. Then people woke up one day, and a game written off as a Breath of the Wild rip off was eating everyone's lunch. That's the sort of thing he's warning about here. Fail to improve, fail to innovate, and you end up with a situation where someone else can do the same things or better, and your slice of the pie is going to shrink, and keep shrinking. |
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Bruce91
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While he does exgerrate a little. There are legit insanely talented animators from China like hiromatsu shuu(pen name).
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAQN5A2-3_o |
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cchigu
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Haven't been a fan of anime lately, good shows have shitty animation, shiity shows have good animation, trash LN and VN adaptations soaring high... The last new good show I watched was Vinland Saga or maybe Kaguya sama, don't remember which came first.
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Jay_Stone
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This has to be the best animated opening I have ever seen |
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Dark Mac
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Anime is more popular than ever and yet no one likes my newest Gundam? Clearly Japan's lack of dominance in the animation space is to blame.
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Sarcataclysmal
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I think Tomino is exaggerating a bit, since stuff like the adaptation of his own book (Hathaway's Flash) proves anime is still innovating and standing strong, even under the pressures of the anime industry.
As someone who has watched donghua, though, I don't see Chinese animation as being a significant threat to anime in any way, since the Chinese and Japanese industries are actually intertwined quite a bit. You can see a lot of Chinese and Korean animation studios in the credits to anime nowadays (i.e. DR Movie, which has always been around; Beijing Xiale Arts, which more recently entered the industry; co-productions between Haoliners and other studios like BLADE and CoMix Wave Films), or the reverse; animators like Riooo and such participating in Chinese productions. Korean studios are notably sweatshops, like JM Animation's treatment of their team working on Avatar (Avatar was animated by JM, MOI Animation, and DR Movie), which is what lead to the founding of Studio Mir (after some people from JM got tired of the bad treatment). But even then, Korean animation continues to mostly pump out outsourcing productions like The Simpsons. Most Chinese donghua also aren't really notable. Most of them seem to be CG-animated, like Legend of Ravaging Dynasties, and even then, most of them have this very esoteric narrative style built around wuxia and similar Chinese genres, which are accessible to those who are interested, but when a majority of the works seem to follow that sort of story, I can't say too many people I know, who have experimented with donghua, care too much about them. Especially when the CG-animated ones look like mobile game ads, and the 2D animated ones are either very impressive (Heibai Wushang) or downright awful (Duan Nao) in regard to how good they look. |
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