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This Week in Anime - Does Dragon's Dogma Deliver the Goods?




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Nate148



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 pm Reply with quote
Oh god it's low rent GoT.
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Seagloom



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:08 pm Reply with quote
Yeeeeah. As a fan of the game, I planned to watch this after it was announced. Then it dropped and my instincts told me replaying the game was a better use of my time. This article reassured that I made the right call.
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wolf10



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:14 pm Reply with quote
I'll admit I dropped this like a sack of bricks after the kid got eaten, Spielberg-style, for comedy. There's some lines that just shouldn't be crossed. Glad TWIG suffered through the rest so I didn't have to.

Sad part is, when they had hyped up the tag-along orphan kid in the trailers, I let myself believe that he wasn't just going to be used as a bait-and-switch, needlessly cruel jab at Isidro from Berserk, but that someone working on this was actually familiar enough with the game's lore to remember what happened to the orphan kid in the backstory to Dark Arisen. Spoilers: spoiler[he became an Arisen, and then became an immortal, world-ending abomination]. Alas, no. Gave them way too much premature credit.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:28 pm Reply with quote
It was really a weird choice to adapt dragon dogma, the game does a bunch of interesting things, but almost all of them are gameplay related. The game had almost no story to speak of, since the main character is a silent protagonist.

Dragon dogma is a weird properties, there's some clear sign that the game was rushed out the door and was originally supposed to be much bigger. Despite that it did pretty well so it's clear capcom realize there's some potential. But then they just made a crappy mmo that was never released out of japan and then nothing more. It's like it was unexpectedly successful and they just don't know what to do with it. I just want magick archer fun. Sad

Oh also, here's the the opening of the original game, with the most WTF music choice possible (wait about a minute).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeYkWUpccs
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:30 pm Reply with quote
wolf10 wrote:
I'll admit I dropped this like a sack of bricks after the kid got eaten, Spielberg-style, for comedy. There's some lines that just shouldn't be crossed.


If you've played the video game unintentional comedy is DD's forte rare as it is.

"It has the head of a giant cock".

Strangling women is also something that the game has, though you are supposed to keep this from happening. As is your character turning into the next Dragon with the same appearance and everything (which is one of two of the game's endings) and wonder why they chose to specifically adapt that while incorporating part of the true ending.

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Hell watch the CG Berserk seasons if you're hard up. Do something better with your time than this


Why would you do this!?

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The only connective tissue seems to be they both star a person whose family gets killed by a dragon,


Wasn't apart of the original game's story, your village gets attacked you for no reason try to fight the Dragon, get your ass kicked and have your heart stolen.
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Seagloom



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:52 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
Wasn't apart of the original game's story, your village gets attacked you for no reason try to fight the Dragon, get your ass kicked and have your heart stolen.


Yup. The protag is the only villager driven enough to fight back upon seeing the chaos, gets swatted away like a fly, then has their heart stolen by a seemingly impressed dragon.

One thing I liked about DD is how the protag's hometown is never doomed. No one dies after the initial attack, and every NPC you talk to has your character's back from start to finish. The anime seems a lot edgier.
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wolf10



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:59 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
If you've played the video game unintentional comedy is DD's forte rare as it is.
But there's a time and a place, my dude. You should have been able to grasp from the rest of my post that I've played quite a lot of it. Something like 200 hours in the PC version alone, and probably twice that on the original PS3 release.

Though I'm also the weirdo who appreciates having the army of undying spirit-soldiers around to eat (get it) instant-kill mechanics, rather than force me to play someone who treats "real" lives like they're disposable. Clearing the game with zero in-combat NPC deaths is actually one of my favorite challenges, and the mark of a true badass.

BadNewsBlues wrote:
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Hell watch the CG Berserk seasons if you're hard up. Do something better with your time than this
Why would you do this!?

The 2016 season is actually the best adaptation of Conviction we're likely to ever get, and a pretty serviceable introduction to the series post-Eclipse (a.k.a. the actual series). The 2017 season would have been good if the production hadn't imploded in the home stretch.
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SrkSano



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:45 pm Reply with quote
Personally I enjoyed this anime. I enjoyed some of the little storyline nods. I liked how you can tell it happens several years before the game if you compare the state of Cassardis in the game to the anime. Also in the anime people worship the Gods instead of The Maker in the game. You can tell that at one point they went to worshiping a single deity.

I was never beholden to the game's overall story since there have been several Arisens. Felt they could do whatever. I used to joke that in the original PS3 game they had Berserk skins so they could rip off Berserk without getting sued lol! I mean the mission to find the witch in the game is almost exactly like what happens in Berserk ha ha!

I also liked how the dialog was pre-recorded in English so they got Japan to mimic mouth movements. So we didn't get up and down lip movements or English words forced into the mouths of people speaking Japanese. Just wish that wasn't as rare an occurence as it is.

I wasn't a big fan of the CGI in the first episode but it grew on me over time. It wasn't a perfect anime, but a fun way to kill a day.
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Vent



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:59 am Reply with quote
You can tell they missed the point the second they gave the protagonist a family to be murdered.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:22 am Reply with quote
wolf10 wrote:
But there's a time and a place, my dude.

There is a time and place but the kid getting eaten by the dragon as already mentioned wasn't intended to be funny. It's just that with the way the scene was setup it's going to be seen as laughable instead of the horrific and terrible scene it's supposed to be seen as.

wolf10 wrote:
Clearing the game with zero in-combat NPC deaths is actually one of my favorite challenges, and the mark of a true badass.


Better man than me especially with the Direwolfs loving to drag someone off a cliff or maul them and the Goblins getting stomp happy on anyone in their range.


wolf10 wrote:
BThe 2017 season would have been good if the production hadn't imploded in the home stretch.


I'll take your word for it.

Seagloom wrote:


One thing I liked about DD is how the protag's hometown is never doomed. No one dies after the initial attack, and every NPC you talk to has your character's back from start to finish.


Well considering what happens at the end we can only hope Dragonsbanespoiler[ didn't become even more spiteful over the Arisen turning him into an old man (along with stealing his wife)] and decide to take a salt the earth policy by having Cassardis burned to the ground.
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