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Shotasailor
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:10 am
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Umm, please Dont Call Me A Pervert Or Anythin (Im Only 14,) But Whats Some Good Shota Manga?? [/b]
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ikky
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:34 am
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If you mean titles that are licensed, the only one I know of is Loveless. It's not pornographic or anything though.
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Kouji
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:40 am
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Contrary to what Tokyopop might lead you to believe, Loveless isn't shota or BL. It does contain shota undertones but it's a shoujo manga. It ran in a shoujo magazine in Japan rather than a BL magazine and the relationship between Ritsuka and Soubi isn't the main focus of the series. Even the lesbian couple had more development than Ritsuka and Soubi did. But Loveless is still a good series that's worth reading in its own right.
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digitalkikka
Joined: 13 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:19 pm
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Wait until tomorrow (or a day or two after that) and go to any anime/manga-related image board.
You can always try Google too. I don't think ANN is really the place where you'll find to many answers... Unless of course you're just looking for something like Loveless.
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Pinkwings
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:15 am
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About Loveless:
Give them some time. They'll get more development. They are the main characters. Their relationship shouldnt be rushed. Plus I dont think its safe to just call it shoujo. A non Bl fan may decide to read it and then will be in for a surprise when they see all the kissing and touching.
Give it a shot tc. Its cute.
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Kouji
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:01 am
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Whether Ritsuka and Soubi's relationship is developed further is beside the point. It still doesn't change that it isn't the main focus of the series. The main focus is on Ritsuka's mission to find out who killed Seimei and why and battling against the students of Septimal Moon. Regardless if it's "safe" to call it just shoujo is irrelevant to the fact that it is shoujo. It ran in a shoujo magazine, not a BL magazine, so unless Loveless switches magazines before it ends its serialization, Loveless is still a shoujo manga. I did in fact say that Loveless contained BL undertones and I even recommended the series regardless of what genre it was, but like I said it's still shoujo, and if all a shoujo series required to be labeled as BL was kissing and touching between boys, pretty much every shoujo manga on the planet would be classified as BL. Like I said, whether it contains BL undertones doesn't matter. Just look at some of the other titles that were published in Monthly Comic Zero Sum (the magazine that Loveless runs in). They have titles like Saiyuki Reload, Weis Kreuz, and Xenosaga, none of which are BL. I find it hard to believe that a BL manga would run in a magazine that features hardly any BL manga at all. Sometimes you just have to look at the magazine it ran in to see what genre it falls in and like I said, Loveless ran in a shoujo magazine, so it is shoujo.
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kolibri
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:32 pm
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Kudos so Kouji. Definition of shoujo manga is that it was published in a shoujo magazine, hence Loveless is shoujo - it's mismarketed here... and it most certainly isn't shota.
It'll be difficult to find licensed shota, companies are very careful with that because it's illegal in most countries (not to mention morally questionable). A lot of licensed BL manga however has shota undertones where characters are said to be 18, but they sure as hell look like 12 or 15 to me... I would give you pointers, only they are 16+ or 18+ titles and I think you're a bit too young to read that kind of stuff Please wait for few years... there are lot of nice things you can read meanwhile.
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Shotasailor
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:44 pm
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please dont patronize me
i would like your recomendations
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kyokun703
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:08 pm
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kolibri wrote: | I would give you pointers, only they are 16+ or 18+ titles and I think you're a bit too young to read that kind of stuff Please wait for few years... there are lot of nice things you can read meanwhile. |
I didn't find this particularly patronizing; they just don't want to assist in helping you obtain questionable material for a person your age.
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kolibri
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:27 pm
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I'm sorry if I came across as patronizing, that wasn't my intent. I used to be 14, the last thing you want to hear then is someone telling you that you're not mature enough to do something. However with hindsight I can say that those people that told me those things were completely right, and I shouldn't have seen or read some of the stuff that I of course did.
That's why I'm not going to help you to find shota. If you really are mature enough to handle it, then you should also be clever enough to do your own research, find the websites where this kind of information can be found and procure the material... I'm just going to warn you again that in the worst case scenario this stuff could get you into trouble, or more accurately it could get your parents into trouble as you're still a minor. If you're as mature as you claim you are, you'll understand this.
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digitalkikka
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:06 pm
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Shotasailor wrote: | please don't patronize me
i would like your recomendations |
Do you even know what shota is? The only thing I'm going to tell you is to search for "shota" or "shotacon". Heck even search for "Bridget" or "Pico"... it really isn't hard. It's illegal to give porn to a minor so we can't help you here. When you're 18 you'll be able to join quite a few 'communities' that specialize in this type of thing. Until then try reading something like Almost Crying which features young looking characters.
And I was completely serious in that first sentence of my first post. It really was a recommendation...
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kolibri
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:38 pm
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Well, you went further than I was prepared to
And the thing is, I was trying to think of nice 13+ titles that would have this kind of element and the best that I came up with was Ouran High School Host Club Shota really isn't kids' stuff.
Sometimes I wonder what it is that attracts women to shota. Is it some kind of "ooh it's so cute" effect gone awry?
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digitalkikka
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:26 pm
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kolibri wrote: | Sometimes I wonder what it is that attracts women to shota. Is it some kind of "ooh it's so cute" effect gone awry? |
Shota aimed at women is basically BL with young characters. It's hard to explain but the themes are more... innocent. Not that shota is innocent (that's really not the right word) but it doesn't have the same themes you see in BL. In the end it's just more "awwwww". But of course there are hundreds of ways or reasons women could be attracted to it. We're studying a similar topic in my psychology class and there really are multiple reasons but I think I might creep everyone out if I went into them .
Quote: | Shota really isn't kids' stuff. |
No, it isn't. And Shotasailor, if you really are 14 I highly recommend waiting until you're older to find out more about this stuff. You're not a pervert if you like it but there's really some scary things out there you could run into. And please, please do not go to an "over 18" website and tell people you're 14 and looking for porn. There are sick people in this world.
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