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darkchibi07
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:36 am
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There's something truly ironic with this. I'm still rather amused about this though.
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mgosdin
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:48 am
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Nice to see this.
I remember reading Ender's Game as a short story in Analog, one of the old SF Pulp Magazines, in 1977.
It has come a looong way since then, so has Mr. Card.
Mark Gosdin
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Utsuro no Hako
Joined: 18 May 2012
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:50 am
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Future ANN Headline: Fujoshi Riot at Comiket -- Fans Run Amuck After Learning Orson Scott Card Hates Yaoi.
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vangelionite88
Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:52 am
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they want to promote a live action movie at a COMIKet?...... godamnit, movies and television networks have already crapped all over the "COMIC"-con with their live action drudgery, I dont want to see the same thing happen to japan... maybe if it was an Enders Game manga or comic I could understand, but nooo.
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MrTerrorist
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:53 am
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If anyone is wondering who those three people are that the artist drawn, it's Ender, Petra and Valentine respectively.
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zeo1fan
Joined: 02 Sep 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:11 pm
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"According to Ender's Game film marketing producer Yuri Kusataro, 'When I read [Ender's Game], I felt the portrayal of the set-up and the main character were very sympathetic and appealing, like something from an anime. Ender's Game portrays people in a deep way, just like in anime. Hollywood's live action has finally caught up.'"
That's quite the high-handed statement, considering how many terrible anime come out of every year.
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Rahxephon91
Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:14 pm
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No offense to that guy, but that is quite honestly a very stupid comment.
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zeo1fan
Joined: 02 Sep 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:22 pm
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Rahxephon91 wrote: | No offense to that guy, but that is quite honestly a very stupid comment. |
Which guy?
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Saturn
Joined: 08 Aug 2002
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:57 pm
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Utsuro no Hako wrote: | Future ANN Headline: Fujoshi Riot at Comiket -- Fans Run Amuck After Learning Orson Scott Card Hates Yaoi. |
now that would be fun to watch
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Oneeyedjacks
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:11 pm
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zeo1fan wrote: | "Ender's Game portrays people in a deep way, just like in anime. Hollywood's live action has finally caught up.'"
That's quite the high-handed statement, considering how many terrible anime come out of every year. |
I'm under the impression this Yuri Kusataro person probably doesn't watch much Hollywood movies beyond the Transformers-type garbage it consistently craps out. They've been producing movies that portray people in "deep" ways looong before anime was even a thing.
Maybe not too often in giant sci-fi settings, but they've done it plenty.
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Mohawk52
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:18 pm
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Talk about your fresh water fish jumping into salt water. This has all the potential to go sooo badly wrong. But Disney needs to learn a lesson the hard way it seems. I look forward to the casualty report.
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:09 pm
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Utsuro no Hako wrote: | Future ANN Headline: Fujoshi Riot at Comiket -- Fans Run Amuck After Learning Orson Scott Card Hates Yaoi. |
I always found Card's stance on gays kind of comical considering all the obvious homoerotic subtext in his books, particularly Ender's Game. Great read though
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Gyt Kaliba
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:53 pm
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v1cious wrote: |
Utsuro no Hako wrote: | Future ANN Headline: Fujoshi Riot at Comiket -- Fans Run Amuck After Learning Orson Scott Card Hates Yaoi. |
I always found Card's stance on gays kind of comical considering all the obvious homoerotic subtext in his books, particularly Ender's Game. Great read though |
That was kind of my thought process too. The minute I found out about Card's stance on these things, not only was I immensely disappointed (he's not a favorite author of mine, but I do like the Ender books), it also flashed right back to certain scenes in the original book. I was like '...Really?'.
I'm not really interested in the movie as of now, since the commercials at least seem like they've changed something major - it looks like Ender knows that he's actually fighting in the war much earlier on - but I'll still probably see it eventually.
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pluvia33
Joined: 23 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:32 pm
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Gyt Kaliba wrote: | I'm not really interested in the movie as of now, since the commercials at least seem like they've changed something major - it looks like Ender knows that he's actually fighting in the war much earlier on - but I'll still probably see it eventually. |
No, I don't believe Ender knows. From what I've heard, the only thing that has changed in that respect is that the audience is let in on the secret from the beginning.
I do find this promotion to be interesting and I like the look of the drawings. I would like to see a manga and/or anime for the series, if done right.
As far as Card's personal views go, it is a little hard to separate him from his work, but I think it is necessary. I think groups calling for a boycott of the film isn't really called for. It punishes too many other people and robs people of the experience of a great story. Card is slowly starting to look like an old reformed racist to me. He said some really stupid crap years ago and pushed against homosexuality, especially same-sex marriage, but now that the laws and society are changing he is also changing a bit and being forced to deal with the times. I think Harrison Ford said it best: "I am aware of his statements admitting that the question of gay marriage is a battle that he lost and he admits that he lost it. I think we all know that we've all won. That humanity has won. And I think that's the end of the story."
And on that note, I would be very amused to see some Ender x Bean yaoi doujinshi and Card's reaction to it....
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MetalUpa1014
Joined: 24 Aug 2013
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:47 pm
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To be quite honest, I didn't really like the original novel to begin with. It wasn't terrible or anything, but there isn't a single aspect that stood out to me as notable. To me, it's just generic sci-fi with a bunch of unrealistic characters that I don't really care for.
And Card's own homophobic views just add more fuel to the "why I don't care for Ender's Game" fire. Perhaps I'll torrent the movie at some point, but it isn't a priority for me to see in theaters or even pay for legally.
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