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naruto fan 09812
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I do not see the reasoning to bring comedy anime to America. The main reason I watch anime is for storyline and action and not for comedy. I think we had I fill of slapstick comedy from American cartoons and that why I think crayon Shin Chan will fail from day one. And besides all the anime I have seen has a scene or two of comedy in it so bringing it to America is a moot point. Futhermore,the only good comedy anime that came to America was FLCL.
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Tony K.
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Uh.. that's a bit contradicting... They bring comedy anime to North America because it's funny. Funny = laughing, and laughing feels good, right? Last edited by Tony K. on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:08 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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PantsGoblin
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I sense a flaw in your arguement. Edit: I see you've changed it now.
Since you're presenting this as a fact, I'm going to say that you are flat out wrong. Just because you don't watch it for comedy does not mean everybody doesn't watch it for comedy. Last edited by PantsGoblin on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:22 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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bennyb
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Comedy anime is one of my favorite kinds. Hare + Guu is comedy. Excel Saga is comedy. What's wrong with a laugh to help take your mind off that troublesome real world eh? (not too different from ninjas IMO) |
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SharinganEyes92
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Well, I'm sure the American companies licensing the anime want to expose their fans to more genres of anime, instead of just making them watch the standard Shonen adventures and Shojo love stories. Who doesn't love laughing? I personally thought Shin Chan was hilarious on Saturday night. It was so funny, that I plan on watching it a second time on my Tivo. I wish they could bring some more comedy anime over to America.
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Zalis116
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Crayon-Shin-Chan. You're looking for "moot" point, not "mute" point. Moot = pointless, mute = silent (you know, like that button on your remote control...why would they be the same word?) Another contradiction is that Naruto is quite full of comedy, when it's not focusing on ninja fights or tragic flashbacks. You don't seem to have a problem enjoying that series. Have you even seen very much comedy anime outside of FLCL? Plenty of people enjoy the comedy and fanservice of series like Love Hina, Mahoromatic, Chobits, Girls Bravo, DearS, Tenchi Muyo!, and Steel Angel Kurumi -- then there's the parody / slapstick of Excel Saga, Abenobashi, Samurai Champloo -- romantic comedies like Full Metal Panic!, His & Her Circumstances, Ah My Goddess, Please Teacher! Please Twins! -- fantasy/comedy like Rune Soldier, Slayers, Maze -- wacky school comedy in Azumanga Daioh and the upcoming Pani Poni Dash! and School Rumble... I think you get the point; there are plenty of comedy anime out there, and I haven't even mentioned the more subtle ones like Genshiken...it's not just slapstick that you can find in American cartoons, and from all these anime that have enjoyed some kind of success, it's clear that the companies find it a good idea to bring these anime over (note that everything on the list is licensed in R1), so clearly comedy sells. Now, there are some comedies out there that are so heavy on Japanese cultural references that they don't get licensed, or need excessive reference notes to be understandable, but surprise surpise, companies either don't license them or supply the reference notes. And on a final note, people don't just watch for "storyline, action, and comedy" -- plenty of people watch for things like drama, romance, thinking value, and just plain depictions of life where nothing amazing happens, like in Piano or Someday's Dreamers. Okay, SD has magic, but it's not an action series by any means. Last edited by Zalis116 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:40 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ironwarrior
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Thead poster: I think your argument might be better if you defined specific elements that you consider comedic. I just posted a thread about Yumeria, and it was parody (and perhaps satire)--I laughed so hard in parts I about peed my pants.
Some anime that is labelled as comedy I dislike and consider annoying, yet anime that might have content many may perceive as revolting, I find amusing. Truly a matter of personal taste here. I should note my comedic tastes aren't usually the generally accepted norm, and I consider live-action situated comedies pathetic tripe and partly responsible for the "dumbing" of Western society (hey, I know that's a leap!). |
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caseclosedfan414
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You mean the main reason you watch anime, not "we". Speak for yourself. Everyone has their own opinion on different things, they have different tastes, and they have different reasons for watching anime. While you may look for an Action anime with a good storyline, others may look for a Comedy anime. Besides, as you said, in America, we have many Comedy cartoons (not to mention, live-action shows). What does that tell you about the US, since a lot of shows, both cartoon and live action, are funny? Most Americans like Comedy (if not all). It appeals to us (or at least, most of us). I guess people over in Japan realized that and figured: since they (the US) like Comedy so much, maybe we (Japan) should send over Comedy anime because that might do well with them--they might like it. I'd say they're trying to meet our demand for Comedy and also trying to get rid of the whole Shounen/Action/Adventure anime stereotypes some of us have, by exposing us to a diverse selection of anime. Anyway, personally, I found Shin Chan very...creepy, since it looked so kiddie, but wasn't (it was flat-out...weird, IMO), and, secondly, I hate FLCL with a passion. It's retarded. It's stupid. It makes no sense. There is no logic behind it. It's just random...crap. Last edited by caseclosedfan414 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:42 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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Kyuriko
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Not everybody watches anime for a storyline or action. You might not like comedy, but some people do, so please don't state we watch anime is for storyline and action like it's a fact. I could understand not translating certain series because of heavy Japanese cultural reference, but the reason more comedy series are being translated is because whatever you might think, people actually do like comedy.
A side note: I don't watch anime just for storyline and action. I watch it because I enjoy it. |
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Nagisa
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Maybe because what you look for in Japanese cartoons is not necessarily what everyone else looks for in Japanese cartoons. Some people want comedy, so they turn to Cromartie or Fumoffu. Some, like you, want simple story and big action, so they turn to Naruto or Fist of the North Star. Some want heavy, heady story, so they turn to Ghost in the Shell or Haibane Renmei. And still others seek out a combination of the above, and may turn to a Black Lagoon or a Haruhi. We don't all think like you, and it's insane (not to mention a little bit arrogant, pompous, presumptuous, and self-important) for you to assume that we do.
That's moot point, and just because some simple little shounen show has a little bit of comedy doesn't mean that those of us wanting the comedy should have to trudge through a thousand episodes of yelling and fireballs just to get some ten minutes' worth of usually forced and insincere laughs.
And Cromartie, and Azumanga, and School Rumble, and Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu, and Golden Boy, and Slayers, and didn't you forget about a certain classic called Lupin the frickin' III? Of course, this is just my opinion. Like I said, your egotistical assumption that we all think like you has a few holes in it. Most notably that, well, we don't all think like you. Of which I, for one, am really freakin' grateful, because I'd hate to think of how many good shows I'd miss out on. Last edited by Nagisa on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:49 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Keonyn
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For the simple reason that comedy can be good whether it's made here or there, just because other people make comedy doesn't mean that somebody else who wants to shouldn't. It's a market, and there's a market for comedy, a large market actually, and a large enough one to allow for both american animation and anime to offer a large enough array of titles for the fans.
The only real issue I see with importing comedy anime is the cultural aspect. Often times comedic anime consists of jokes that really don't make sense to your average viewer because it's a piece of comedy often seen in Japan but not really seen here or considered altogether funny. Essentially people just don't always get it because it's not part of our culture. So licensors have a dilemma, they can leave it as is and as a result may end up with a title that's far too niche to be profitable, or they could edit it and face the wrath of the rabid purists and give them more mud to throw. It would pretty much be the same in reverse, as much as I love the Animaniacs it wouldn't translate well due to the sheer number of cultural jokes and references to other material from its time period. Sometimes comedy just doesn't cross the culture gap well, but if it does there's no reason not to do it just because comedy animation is already common in the US, it's a big enough market and there's always room for something new. |
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naruto fan 09812
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Hey,I like comedy too but it so many comedy cartoons out there and I do not want anime to started focusing just on comedy rather than storyline just to please American audicenes
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Nagisa
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Who said they were? And there again, if that's what audiences want, what's so wrong about comedy taking precedent? Don't worry, your little shounen shows aren't going anywhere for the time being (except maybe onto more filler, buh-zing), so you have no reason to take unnecessary little snipes like these at other genres you don't like just yet. |
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ryujin jakka
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Here Here, Don't Speak for us all, I like Comedy just as much as I like Adventure, Mecha, Supernatural, ECT!
Because Some people like it, Like me for example. It also sells, Don't think that they bring anime over here for our amusement. It is to make them money, Lots of money! |
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sandy_taty
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-english second language I completely Agree. Think about why they are bringing anime to America. For MONEY! It is a fact, anime it is becoming more popular each time. I know it is already popular but more popular. Also the creators want the people to like their anime. Won't you like somebody to like your own anime? |
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