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thebraxtonidentity
Posts: 6 Location: Mississippi, US |
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I just got done going over and over Neon Genesis Evangelion, and it has left me wanting something more solid as far as plot. I got lost in everyone's interpretations, and now I don't know what to think of the NGE series except that its pretty much incomprehensible. Anyways, I was looking at RahXephon and noticing how similar it was to the NGE story, except that some people think the characters are developed more fully. I was just wondering if you people who have seen the series think RahXephon would be a good anime to get into next, because I want something similar to NGE.
Of course, I realize how much NGE is loved by the general anime public, and I liked it as well. The next series I wanna get into doesn't have to be the holy grail of anime, just something similar and not so freaking confusing. |
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hentai4me
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if NGE is the holy grail of anime then RahXephon is whats inside. Its just better. The characters are one and all likable throughout, they stay continuous and dont deviate from their personalities for no reason, the animation and artwork is excellent. The plot is well crafted, well written and timed more or less perfectly, you get enough secrets given and revealed to keep you wanting to come back for more, the ending is a real ending with definite closure. Tne biggest difference between them is this, NGE is a depressing story, looking at all of the ills of humanity and how we do things wrong, RahXephon is an uplifting story, it looks at the good of humanity and how that affects us and those around us.
so all in all I think RahXephon is infinitely superior to NGE |
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2Real
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RahXephon is a good one, so is Vandread, Full Metal Panic,most of the Gundams', Those are all the same style somewhat as NGE, as far as giant robots are concerend.
All of those titles I highly recomend, except Gundam, it depends on which one you chose to watch. Vandread especialy has a one of a kind story, well something I haven't seen other then in that show. All of them are very well done in my oppinion. Vandrad and Full Metal Panic have a lighter side to them, brought to you through comedy, that is prety well done. All of them have their own romantic lineing to them, but then again most shows do. Over all I would say IF you enjoyed the whole mech, giant robot, fights and story, what you can follow of it, in NGE, I sujest you look into these titles. Ask around, or PM me, if you want a basic review of a certian show. |
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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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I too have seen both of these series and I highly recommend RahXephon. It is far superior IMO in the visual, story, and specially the audio, the music is awesome, compared to Eva but it might not be fair to compare because these series were created years apart. I am currently watching the series all over again, I picked up the movie and havn't seen the series in like a year, and I find myself thinking of way too similar scenes between Eva and RahXephon. For example there is a car ride is RahXephon that has almost the same camera angle the car ride between Shinji and Misato does during the Eva first episode. The story is more comprehensible as stated before.
I didn't think RahXephon was an uplifting story cause I remember several depressing scenes and one in particular that actually made a tear come out, to refresh peoples memory it involved the city, a dolem, a hotel, a girl, and of course RahXephon. I know it sounds kinky but people who've seen RahXephon tend to remember this tear jerking scene. I heard Fafner is way too similar to NGE and RahXephon but I havn't checked it out and I think ANN has been reviewing each volume, I know 3 for sure since it's in the homepage, so you might want to look into it. I'm not saying buy it cause I havn't seen it but I've heard it's very similar to these two series. If you are going to commit to the series I suggest you purchase the limited edition movie box set because it comes with a book that explains just about everything in the world of RahXephon. Oh and did I mention that it is only $10? You can order it from Right Stuf but it's been available for a while so who knows how much longer it'll be available at the sweet price. It comes with a box to hold all 8 DVDs (The 7 TV DVDs and 8th Being the movie), The 2 hour movie, and The guide. |
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Raven Shinobi
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RahXephon is not as deep or as thought-provoking as Eva, not to mention not as original since there are a lot of striking similarities between the two, some people like Rah better than Eva because the story is easier to follow and because they found the charcters more likeable, personally, I found most characters except a handful as annoying as hell and not as complex as the cast in Eva. It's debatable which protagonist is better, but Shinji's confidence issues and morality made him more inetersting in my eyes than the main character in RahXephon.
But RahXephon is still a good anime on it's own and I enjoyed it immensely, if you liked Eva then this one is a must-have. |
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Kazuki-san
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Ah yes. RahXephon. Many compare the two.
The problem is, as much as people try to pit the two series against one another, RahX is not an Eva 'clone' or anything else associated with Eva. They do not tell the same story, use the same characters, the same symbolism, or anything else. Both stand firm on their own ground as great series. RahXephon is also not so easy to truly understand as some would make it out to be. While the basic premise is easily found, there are certain aspects of the story that lurk just below the surface, never fully explained. It really depends on how far you wish to get into it.
It's blood? 
That depends. The are two endings, the TV ending and the movie ending. In Eva, both endings end with the same result, we simply see a different perspective. In RahX, we are also shown a different perspective, but events and consequences change as well. So do the endings. The TV ending is rather open. The movie ending provides a bit more closure, but only for certain characters. IMHO, RahXephon is certainly worth exploring, independant of your feelings on Eva. Of course, an inherent like of Mecha/Scifi/Armageddon type stuff is a good thing 
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one3rd
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Blue blood. I've never really compared NGE and RahXephon with each other. Certainly, there are numerous similarities between the two, but when I watch RahXephon, I only see RahXephon, not NGE. Whether any story elements were borrowed from NGE or not, RahXephon is still a good series that holds up on its own. |
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GospelX
Posts: 185 Location: Ann Arbor, MI |
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RahXephon will definitely come up in conversations about Evangelion these days because without Eva there would be no RahX. Eva helped to redefine the elements of the super robot show when it came out. Granted, it did take elements from other older series that are definitely obscure to those of us in America (Ideon, for example), but that's to be expected from most Gainax productions.
What RahXephon does is forego the episodic monster-a-week setup that Evangelion used with good purpose in mind and instead smoothed out the storytelling, which I really enjoyed about it. However, character designs and other elements of them do tend to remind staunch Eva fans of their favored characters. Also, much is to be said for the super robot whose only real weakness is the pilot and his psyche -- not to mention how much power said robot has over the world. Personally, I didn't find RahXephon detestable, but I found the pacing a little slow for me and literally fell asleep while watching it. It was a good series, but in the back of my mind I felt like I had seen it before. Then again, the love story aspect of it was neat and, arguably, the main attraction in the series (and wasn't that made the main focus of the movie?). It's all worth checking out at least once to make your own opinion about it, regardless of your feelings about Evangelion. |
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Zalis116
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RahXephon had its good points, but I'll have to admit, I liked NGE better. To me, it did feel like a rip-off, including some of the specific battle scenes, espcially the one where spoiler[a Dolem pulls Ayato into an "inner-mind"/dream world.] I also felt that RX drowned itself in all the music talk and all the Nahuatl (Aztec) names for no other reason than "because we can." Maybe it was like my experience with Key the Metal Idol, where the show didn't meet what I expected based on earlier information. I was expecting serious romance out of RX, but the love plots were incoherent (although the part in episode 19 that Joel mentions is very memorable). Thinking about the last episode, my thoughts were, "If I want harem anime, I'll watch Love Hina or Girls Bravo, and see it done better."
Maybe I'm a sad-emotions junkie, but I liked some of the more depressing aspects of NGE, including Shinji's lack of success with girls, compared to RX's Ayato. That lack of success makes certain scenes, like spoiler[the kiss with Asuka in episode 15] more dramatic/special. But still, RahXephon is still worth buying (at least in thinpack) and watching, and maybe someday when I rewatch it, I'll see some things I missed / fell asleep for (you weren't the only one, GospelX) during my first watch of the show. |
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Raven Shinobi
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That was one of the reason why I prefer Shinji over Ayato and why I didn't take the latter seriously, it disgusted me how so many women in the show had a thing for him, I found myself rolling my eyes when even spoiler[Megumi who was in love with someone else switched feelings and was all over Ayato all of a sudden. ] |
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SuperOnizuka
 Posts: 421 Location: When I look At the World- New Jersey |
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Maybe. But when she had her back against the wall next to him, spoiler[what he was confessing sure sounded like a love confession...if you didn't see the previous episode. So surely she would confuse that as a love confession from him.] She is still a young adolescent. 
I still haven't seen Eva, but I liked RahXephon. Just took me a while to finish watching it. 
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Raven Shinobi
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Hmm, I think I might've missed the underlying meaning behind that scene, you're right, she was young after all so it will seem realistic that that confrontation meant something for her. |
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SuperOnizuka
Posts: 421 Location: When I look At the World- New Jersey |
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I should have included this in my earlier post, but I fail to see how RahXephon turned into a harem anime.
The miltary girl, the buff slightly man-ish one, spoiler[finally broke thru her enmity towards Mu through Ayato. But she clearly didn't show that she loved Ayato.] Hiroko, spoiler[yeah she loved him and eventually died because of him. But she loved him from the beginning and wanted to be with him, even though she herself was confused on whether she was a "Mu" or a human being.] Megumi, spoiler[as I earlier stated confused Ayato's confession as a love confession, even though he was confessing, practically, that he is a Mu and feels isolation because of that. It was more like the adolescent "puppy-love" more than anything else. ] Quon, spoiler[I dunno if she is a part of this "harem" idea, but she looked at Ayato more as a brother than a lover. ] Reika, spoiler[who is actually RahXephon, I don't think actually wanted his love and attention in the emotional heart to heart kinda of love, but I am thinking that she wanted Ayato to accept her, since she is a part of him.] Haruka, spoiler[she is the one that Ayato loved and fell in love with. Even though he didn't figure out who it was till later, from his memories, he genuinely cared for her and she did so for him. Even though at times, I wanted to slap Haruka on certain occasions...] The only two people who really had any love interests in Ayato was spoiler[Hiroko and Haruka]. So for the rest of the cast, other than these two, I fail to see how it turned into a harem anime. and if NGE is really sad and depressing, I think I will stick with RahXephon. Sad and depressing anime isn't my cup of tea. |
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zhir
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um.... EVA is derived from space runway ideon. They even have similar endings. |
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hentai4me
Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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Eva might be more thought provoking. But you must admit that many of those discussions and thoughts are merely differing opinions on poorly explained events.
and hey Eva is a psychological one, Rah's not, at least that doesnt seem to be its focus whereas Eva's is. and people will always compare Eva and Rah...in much the same way people are always going to compare Harem shows with Love Hina...they're the same type of show... But the characters on Eva really annoyed me, they all had psychological problems, yes, but they let those become the defining feature of their own personalities and their actions...I know better than most how psychological things can affect you, but in my experience(I cant really vouch for others now can ?  ) just letting them dominate yourself is sheer idiocy.
while I'll agree the characters in Eva were far better fleshed out than many in others series I couldn't get around the fact that they were really just a bundle of events and actions based off the root psychological problem, that this problem created the character, rather than the character having a problem the characters were really just an excuse for the problem. its hard to explain this... (I dunno if we are going OT here and should start a new topic...I think weve answered the question with a resounding YES Rah is a very good show...now we are digressing onto Eva or Rah) |
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