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Shelf Life - Making the Band

(A quick google search suggests that Super Saiyan 4 and 5 exist in episodes I haven't seen. Great.)

Fortunately the dub re-writing manages to add a little more depth

Haberkorn does his best to create a new character, but his voice is so distinct it's distracting.

^ As I understand it, Toriyama wanted to end his Dragonball (Z) manga with the Cell arc, and it was the 'powers that be' (ie share holders?) that requested more from him (so they could make more money). If this is any kind of excuse, I'm sure Toriyama just wasn't into it when he was writing/illustrating the Buu arc.

I wish people would stop insisting they know when Toriyama "really" wanted to end DB.

http://www.kanzentai.com/intended_end.php

Azusa is frustrated by Yui, who doesn't realize her strings have rusted, and has never even seen a guitar tuner.

That said, everything else on this disc was a rehash of the first half of the series... Speaking of which, “rich” is not a personality or characterization. It might be part of writing a real character, but you've got to add some other traits!

The Fairy Tail dub is ok, 2nd to the JP version.
Don't like the change to Cancer's ebi.
Haberkorn was a bit off but now I'm used to it, Cherami is hit and miss with Lucy, same voice (Colleen) for strong women for Erza is boring but ok, Gray's voice is also hit and miss but like the Ice Make moments, Happy just sucks. Series starts off ok but will turn into the usual, characters level up during a fight and beat their superior opponent who has only taken about 35% of the attacks the hero received, whatever established logic gets a big crap on its head, spoiler[Lightning Fire Dragon Natsu thanks to Laxus giving his power to him, would have made more sense if he permanently used the the Godslayer fire Zancrow used]

Mashima's other big screw ups to me
I'm a Levy x Gajeel hater, I wanted her and Lucy to get together.
Mest better keep his ass away from Wendy.
The stuff in the spoiler.

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Fortunately the dub re-writing manages to add a little more depth

You've got to be f***ing kidding me. The only thing the dub "adds" is a bunch of b.s. changed dialogue that shouldn't be there.

penguintruth wrote:

I wish people would stop insisting they know when Toriyama "really" wanted to end DB. http://www.kanzentai.com/intended_end.php

Well, you certainly can't deny that both the Freiza and Cell story arcs had definitive-enough endings that certainly indicate that both could have been the actual ending when they each happened.

Hell, even recently the end of the Hueco Mundo arc in Bleach was done as a way of actually ending the manga; Kubo Tite even admitted that he made that "ending" as such just in case Shuiesha wanted the manga to end right there. It's very likely Toriyama ended Freiza the way it did so that he could effectively say to Shueisha "There, it's over. Can I make a new title now?" Naturally, Sheuisha wanted more DB, and Toriyama later gave Cell a similarly-definitive ending, only to end up making more DB and giving the manga an open-ended finish for the longest time, which gave Toei the ability to make GT.