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Kougeru
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I'm glad. People have made some great arguments as to why Madoka is scifi..but when you have a single element that isn't , then it's fantasy in my book. So I'm glad Madoka didn't win.
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Kouta6769
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:30 am
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Not happy camper, not happy camper at all!
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Volibear
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:53 am
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i must confess i haven't watched Madoka but from what i understand it's a more serious take on the magic girl genre, in which case why was it in the running for this award? surely its a fantasy series, not a sci-fi series?
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Parse Error
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:09 am
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| Kougeru wrote: | | I'm glad. People have made some great arguments as to why Madoka is scifi..but when you have a single element that isn't , then it's fantasy in my book. So I'm glad Madoka didn't win. |
| Volibear wrote: | | surely its a fantasy series, not a sci-fi series? |
The article says:
| Quote: | | With this award, SFWJ honors the best work in the fields of science fiction and fantasy — regardless of medium — that was released between September 1, 2010 and August 31, 2011. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:29 am
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Madoka does have SF elements such as time travel and aliens but I don't think of it particularly as an SF series. Its dominant characteristic is magic, so the fantasy label does seem more appropriate.
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msgundam2
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:51 am
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I never heard of Karyu no Miya. When I googled it the first 4 link on the page was for this article.
I think Karyu no Miya won because it was a obscure title.
But I don't know. Even YouTube doesn't have a preview of it.
Is Karyu no Miya even real?
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:11 am
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| Parse Error wrote: |
| Volibear wrote: | | surely its a fantasy series, not a sci-fi series? |
The article says:
| Quote: | | With this award, SFWJ honors the best work in the fields of science fiction and fantasy — regardless of medium — that was released between September 1, 2010 and August 31, 2011. |
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The Speckies and the Finkies would never agree to that. 
| msgundam2 wrote: | | I never heard of Karyu no Miya. When I googled it the first 4 link on the page was for this article.
I think Karyu no Miya won because it was a obscure title. |
Like the elitist Oscars voters.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:21 am
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4nBlue
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:30 am
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| msgundam2 wrote: | | I never heard of Karyu no Miya. When I googled it the first 4 link on the page was for this article.
I think Karyu no Miya won because it was a obscure title.
But I don't know. Even YouTube doesn't have a preview of it.
Is Karyu no Miya even real? |
It's real.
Though the only mentions of it that I could find apart from that Amazon.jp link were related to it winning this award. And Amazon.jp has only 5 reviews for it. So I guess it's pretty obscure. Though that's bound to change considering that it's currently the best selling SF/horror/fantasy novel at Amazon.jp.
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msgundam2
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:24 am
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| Megiddo wrote: |
| msgundam2 wrote: | | I never heard of Karyu no Miya. When I googled it the first 4 link on the page was for this article.
I think Karyu no Miya won because it was a obscure title.
But I don't know. Even YouTube doesn't have a preview of it.
Is Karyu no Miya even real? |
I don't think YouTube does previews of books.
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But YouTube does have reviews and people talking about books.
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einhorn303
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:57 pm
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| 4nBlue wrote: |
| msgundam2 wrote: | | I never heard of Karyu no Miya. When I googled it the first 4 link on the page was for this article.
I think Karyu no Miya won because it was a obscure title.
But I don't know. Even YouTube doesn't have a preview of it.
Is Karyu no Miya even real? |
It's real.
Though the only mentions of it that I could find apart from that Amazon.jp link were related to it winning this award. And Amazon.jp has only 5 reviews for it. So I guess it's pretty obscure. Though that's bound to change considering that it's currently the best selling SF/horror/fantasy novel at Amazon.jp. |
In the US, any un-translated book will be infinitely obscure compared to anime. There's no fan translators, no big hype about "what's coming out this season," and no massive internet community dedicated to reading them.
Also, the search engine results for "Karyu no Miya" and "華竜の宮" will be extremely different.
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4nBlue
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:07 am
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| einhorn303 wrote: |
| 4nBlue wrote: |
| msgundam2 wrote: | | I never heard of Karyu no Miya. When I googled it the first 4 link on the page was for this article.
I think Karyu no Miya won because it was a obscure title.
But I don't know. Even YouTube doesn't have a preview of it.
Is Karyu no Miya even real? |
It's real.
Though the only mentions of it that I could find apart from that Amazon.jp link were related to it winning this award. And Amazon.jp has only 5 reviews for it. So I guess it's pretty obscure. Though that's bound to change considering that it's currently the best selling SF/horror/fantasy novel at Amazon.jp. |
In the US, any un-translated book will be infinitely obscure compared to anime. There's no fan translators, no big hype about "what's coming out this season," and no massive internet community dedicated to reading them.
Also, the search engine results for "Karyu no Miya" and "華竜の宮" will be extremely different. |
華竜の宮
That's what I searched with. Checked 4 pages in Google, and after the Amazon.jp there was nothing but this same news in Japanese.
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