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Serge
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So, let's see, I can Stream the Whole First DVD (As the first DVD only contains Episode 1) of Galaxy Angel Rune (For free) from Bandai Visual? That's kinda cool, I won't need to buy the first DVD of it then if I like the show. Saved myself $29.99., but still $49.99 for 4 Episodes afterwards is still pricey for me. I'll wait for them to reduce prices to normal American Prices till I buy from them, which seems to be never for right now.
Strawberry Panic! DVD 1 - Episodes 1-6 (Sub only) = $19.99 Galaxy Angel Rune DVD 1 - Episode 1 (Sub only) = $29.99 = HELL NO. Last edited by Serge on Wed May 07, 2008 2:38 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Bisuketto
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Indeed, their prices are still too high for me to even consider buying from them. I do have some shows I want to own but I've made a choice not to buy them as long as BVUSA keeps up with their current business practices.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Viewing one episode usually isn't enough to make an important decision like spending inordinate and outrageous prices, like for any of BVUSA's imaginary Japanese priced products. In today's economy where filling up my tank costs more than a boxset, I doubt BVUSA will see any sales.
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hikaru004
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Or you could just wait for a sale and buy then after seeing the episodes or renting the rest of the series.
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teh*darkness
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Why would I buy their stuff on sale, when the sale price on most of it would still be more, per episode, than buying something else on sale? A $50 DVD is not going to go on sale for less than $30, most likely, which is full price of a release from anyone else. When other companies products go on sale, you pay between $15 and $23, depending on what store/online site you use. Buying from BVUSA makes absolutely no sense. It's a complete ripoff to everyone who doesn't bother to make excuses for them.
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hikaru004
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No excuses being put forward. Options are buy (on sale or using a discount) or rent if you like the title or do nothing.
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CCSYueh
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If you want this title, you'll pay the price. Why is it so hard for people to understand? BV is allegedly (& as far as I can tell) bringing over titles no one else would bother licensing b ecause there aren't enough fans of said titles here. These titles aren't like Bleach or Naruto. They know less than half as many people who are willing to pay for those titles will be interested in SRW or Haruka, so asking the prices that are being asked for those titles aren't feasible. An item-say a book-with a typical-sized audience is priced accordingly. A vanity press-type title where you have a smaller printing because it's not a mass title will often cost more money. Have we seen anyone busting down any doors to bring over Haruka before BV did? SRW? Galexy Rune? So is there any reason to expect these titles would have been licensed over here otherwise? I very much enjoyed the first Haruka dvd-less shallow than Fushigi Yugi (yeah, I have issues with Watase. Pretty art. I usually hate the story directions). I have yet to feel the desire to slap Akane, unlike Miaka who needed slapping about 5-10 times per ep. 5 dvds in on SRW, I am VERY impressed with the title. I wasn't expecting a lot considering it's based on a game, but the story is far more coherant than other game-based titles I've watched. The art is also quite impressive & the voice work is wonderful. Norio Wakamoto does have a very impressive voice. Demon Prince Enma was another wonderful release. I haven't been disappointed with anything I've bought off BV yet. |
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ManSlayer07
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I believe that both TRSI/Nozomi and Media Blasters (Serge mentioned Strawberry Panic above) are doing exactly that. And that's exactly "why it's so hard for us to understand": because those companies actually have to pay for licenses and yet their prices are significantly cheaper than Bandai Visual USA's. Nozomi actually goes a step further than doing sub-only for niche titles and just does sets. BV does too many things wrong for anyone to actually care so instead of complaining people have just decided to not even care anymore when they announce a new title. |
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Goodpenguin
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I understand a lot of people thinking BV's price points are too high (and not without reason), but when did anime fandom become such a consistent, loyal purchasing base that it's remotely feasible to start tossing around 'betraying the consumer' style arguments? The anime market has seen a huge portion of the fan-base rely heavily on fansubs and turn their back on regular purchases, most fan's shrug and say 'Hey, that's just the way it is.' Now, BV is looking at the same broken market dynamics and going 'Hey, if fans are going to primarily use fansubs, I guess we'll just target premium, niche collectors. That's just the way it is." It strikes me as a bit of 'sour grapes' for a fandom which has heartily embraced non-commercial viewing/distribution of a commercial product to start harping about what's fair or not. Again, I can understand people feeling the prices are way too high given standard market expectation, but in a market dominated by fansubs a company determining it's better to put your hat in with the premium/niche hobby collector audience then potentially flounder with low-cost pricing schemes strikes me as legit. That's a logical outcome of a fansub dominated marketplace that many fans seem to underplay, a company can just as well decide that low sales/high margins is as viable as (trying for) high sales/low margins. |
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hikaru004
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Also all 3 of Nozomi's recent acquisitions should have paid for themselves already in Japan so the prices can be lower than a BV USA release. Emma (2005 and 2007) is a well received Japanese otaku title. The same thing goes for Marimite (2004 x3, 2006) and Aria (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008) which are popular Japanese franchises. Aria's recent series (2008) has a DVD in the top 10.
Strawberry Panic! (2006) is a Japanese otaku title also. More than likely it paid for its release already. On the other hand.... SRWOG (2006) has fans only of the game. Galaxy Angel Rune (2006)was not well received IIRC and only die-hard fans would buy this. Therefore, being a niche title even in Japan the price was higher. Also, Haruka : Beyond the Streams of Time (2004) benefited from it was already been paid for in Japan and the savings got passed on to us. |
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nargun
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Have you ever considered the possibility that the difference is because TRSI/Nozomi/MB are picking up titles with rather more appeal than BVU's? There's a difference between "niche" and "tiny niche". Or, rather: BVU's titles are not just niche, but niche of a niche. Super Robot Wars really only appeals to fans of an incredibly geeky japanese-only video game; GARune is a show that even half the fans of the franchise don't like [at any price]; Gunbuster II is brilliant, but it's incomprehensible unless you've seen the twenty-year-old original [is it even availible R1?]. In all these cases, there's pretty hefty problems, plural, with gaining large sales. Whereas... Maria-sama or Aria or Strawberry Panic... noone's going to expect bleach-scale sales, here, but to want to buy it you don't have to pass the multiple stringent tests that you would for what BVU's selling. |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Truthfully, this is nice that Bandai Visual Usa is streaming these series, but Super Robot Wars isn't that interesting and I heard Galaxy Angel Rune is nothing but slapstick.
Though I might check out Galaxy Angel, this doesn't really mesure up to funimations generous supply of anime titles. |
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BladeDragoonZETA
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you on of dem dar whipper-snappers that don't watch the classics, sonny? well I got some words for you *insert long winded rant of your choice provided it includes the Phrase "Get off my lawn."* point Gunbuster was good and is available in the US for about $40 from BV |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Explain Gunbuster and Diebuster then. See, any argument in favor of BVUSA is now dead. Gunbuster is awesome and I love it, but that still doesn't mean it's worth an MSRP of $80. Even with "sales" $50 dollars is still rather ridiculous. |
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CCSYueh
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Haruka aired in Japan 10/04-3/05. The original OVA is from 2002 I didn't see Nozomi or MB license it. MB speaks of how they paid far too much for Goddesses just to have an "A" title that season--did they bother with Haruka. Have they bothered with Angelique? (which I'm hoping might come over on the tail of Haruka from BV). MB which has lots of 1-3 ep 1-shot titles like Twin Signal or Dark Cat, etc? Why didn't they bother with a 2002 1-shot of bishies? I assume they passed it over. SRW OVA came out 5/05. Again, MB has brought over stuff like Eight Clouds Rising or Marriage, but did they jump at the SRW OVA? No. The Series ran in late '06. (10/4/06 according to the encyclopedia). Did Nozomi or MB go for it? No. Where's your argument again? Do you know how many brands of canned coffee they carry at Mitsuwa Marketplace here in the US? Wanna bet how many other brands don't make it over from Japan? Just because Nozomi & MB license smaller titles doesn't mean they license everything. Supergals 2 was less of a bet because the first season had some popularity here. MB is also fond of picking up dropped titles & I am very grateful they picked up Here is Greenwood & Master of Mosquiton. They also dropped their older shonen manga line due to poor sales. No more Twin Signal (1 volume released) No more Apocalypse Zero. Thank you. They release yaoi. Except some old stuff that's been around forever like Bronze (please pick them up!) So many people I know wanted Monster licensed. Why do some titles get snagged & others skipped? All I know is I was eyeballing these titles & others pretty much from almost as soon as I noticed the cast in the encyclopedia so for yrs. Some stuff like Kyo Kara Maoh got picked up. Other stuff didn't. Now Geneon's gone, all those titles are in limbo. I wouldn't mind finishing KKM, though the place it was at in the 2nd season was wind-down. These titles theoretically have some sort of audience. Why has no one jumped in to rescue them yet? (I'm gambling MB is waiting to the end to pick up what they want as cheap as possible) I want the rest of Shonen Onmyoji & Saiunkoku. One would think Nozomi or MB would go for them by the way you paint them. Nozomi releases VERY little actually. Has BV surpassed their title total yet? THey have to be close. MB released 12 Kingdoms. Saiunkoku should be right up their alley-how did Geneon land it in the first place? No one here outside of the industry really understands how the North American companies pick their titles. I doubt even the licensors in each of the companies really even understands the other companies' strategies. Go Nagai has some fans here. Why did BV secure Demon Prince Enma? Geneon brought us a lot of good horror like Hellsing & Samurai Horror Stories. Why not DPE? THey were up & running last summer whrn DPE was released. You can't speak for the licensees. Just because Bandai releases a lot of mech doesn't give them a lock on ALL giant robot anime. Other companies release some. MB puts out a lot of porn. There are other companies that offer hentai. Just because MB releases older titles they've probably landed cheap doesn't mean they plan to release every small title. Same for Nozomi. |
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