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Elfen12
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:22 pm
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So, i was in the car the other day with my mother and she was talking to me just about random stuff... and randomly, she asked if she could watch one of my animes... for some reason out of instinct i tried to convince her not to watch one, but, she woudln't budge one bit (I find this whole thing rather strange, partly becuase my mom is the last person who would ever ask this). I have a feeling she won't like any of the ones i own, but, i have to show her something ( I think i'm going to show her Kino's Journey)...
But this little interatction with my mom got me thinking what do people who don't watch anime, think of anime? In my opinion, its different if a person has friends who watch it , than it is if that person doens't have friends who watch anime. Some of us may have been in one of these situations before we started watching anime (I myself being one of those people who had a friend who watched it and i didn't watch it). But given the two situations (1. When a person who doens't watch anime has a friend who does watch anime, 2. When a person who doesn't watch anime does not have a friend who watches anime), do you think the person who doesn't watch anime has positive or negative views towards anime... and do you think that the person who doens't wach anime thinks lesser or better of their friend who does watch anime. Also if it's someone who doens't have a friend who watches anime, what do you think people in that situation think of people who do watch anime (If any differnetly from what they normally would). And if you can remember before you started watching anime, what feelings you had towards anime, whether they be happy, sad, tolerable, good, bad ect... . Also how do you think these people get these feelings towards it, esepcially if these feelings are feelings such as hatred towards it, or if people think anime is stupid or the person who watches it is stupid, and have no reason.
I know this is wordy, and its worded rather horribley, but if you can understand what i'm trying to get at, and have an opinion, i'd much like to see it.
For me, i find that my friends who don't watch anime, tend to think downly of anime, and the people who watch it. I've talked to a couple of them about it, and they seem to think its for "nerds who have no life and sit at home watching anime all day"... harsh isn't it? Of course what makes it weirder is he knows i watch it, yet he still holds this opinion, which in some ways makes no sense, (he's not joking by the way). Whereas the other situation, i think that people who have no connection to anime at all (people who don't have friends who watch it), probably just think of it as another hobby that people may have, and dont' have many feelings one way or the other.
-Elfen12-
I hope this made sense
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Fear Ghoul
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:52 pm
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I don't think most people care either way to be honest. The majority of people are barley conscious of the existence of anime, let alone have an opinion on it or its fanbase. I think most real friends are generally the same, and accept that just as they have hobbies you may not be interested, they might not be interested in anime. Being friends however is a great opportunity to introduce them to a new art form, so rarely should you have a friend who has never seen an anime. Friends who have negative opinions of anime have generally been given bad experiences such as being exposed to Naruto, but if they are open minded they might accept that there is anime out there that interests them. Not everyone will like The Wallflower (though why anyone would like it is beyond my comprehension).
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Courbet
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:58 pm
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Could be worse than The Wallflower - Kanokon for example ....
Anyway, my opinion is that its best to let friends naturally decide. Just be yourself, watch anime when you feel like it, some of your friends will join you, others wont because they just arent drawn in by it, or some other reason it lacks appeal for them, however if they are true friends they should tolerate your hobby, even if they dont join in
Whats worse it another friend of mine who likes anime tries to convert our mutual resistent friends to watch by forcing them or mentioning anime at every opportunity - deffo not the way to go - trust me...
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Dark Elf Warrior
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:07 pm
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It all really depends. I have friends who are aware that I like anime, and they could care less. But there are others who do view it as a strange thing to be interested in. In recent years, anime sorta has a bad rep because of obsessive and immature fans who really do do nothing but watch anime all day-on the internet, making people think that anyone who likes anime is a nerd with no life. But there are decent anime fans who actually do have lives.
However, if you like anime, thats what matters. And it is a shame that anime fans now have bad reputations, all because of the behavior of some fans who couldn't control themselves.
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Keonyn
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:13 pm
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Courbet wrote: | Anyway, my opinion is that its best to let friends naturally decide. Just be yourself, watch anime when you feel like it, some of your friends will join you, others wont because they just arent drawn in by it, or some other reason it lacks appeal for them, however if they are true friends they should tolerate your hobby, even if they don't join in |
This is very true. Every friend or relative I've ever convinced to watch anime didn't care for it, or simply liked it but not enough to really get in to it. Where as a few friends have gotten in to it because of series' they've watched with me, and in those two cases they simply expressed an interest after seeing it on my shelf or stopping by while I was watching an episode.
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Elfen12
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:37 pm
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W W... Keonyn, thats acutally pretty cool, with those two cases, and how they took interest in the way they did. Yeah, I mean i have friends who think its "retarded" ( i really hate that word ), and i've even tried to show them just one on an occasion and they just don't care... and they make sure i don't care, by not caring as loud as possible. I showed my friend Saiyuki and he thought it was "really retarded"... i mean if that was my first one, i would probably like anime more then i do, becuase my first one was Elfen Lied and thats not exaclty the 1st series a newcomer to anime would want to see.
But Fear Ghoul, i kind of disagree with you, i think many people are aware of Anime, but perhaps not as many adults as teenagers. I think if you ask 10 Teens "What is anime" most of them would say "Anime is like totaly *Adjective*" ( or would at least have some sort of idea of What it is)... where as the other 2 would either guess (since anime .. animation ... yeah, i don't need to connect any dots here ) or they would just say "no" or something like that.
-Elfen12-
Please, pardon my french...
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Dark Elf Warrior
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:14 pm
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Like I said before, if you like anime, thats all that matters. If your friends say it is "retarded" tell them off (not to the point where you fight and it gets serious.) If you like anime, you like anime. No one can tell you not to like it.
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Watashi wa Ryuzaki
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:38 pm
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Well, my parents actually don't know about my anime related hobbies, but I imagine quite a weird encounter when they walk into the room and see me watching cartoons in japanese
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zanarkand princess
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:14 pm
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My parents are aware that I like anime (as a matter of fact my dad introduced me to it long ago) and even my mom likes some of it so it's not really that big of a deal for me but it helps if you know what the person you show it to likes. For example my mother loves le Chevalier d'eon because she likes the period when the french revolution occurred. My friend loved ouran high school host club because well....she likes good looking guys and lots of them . It all depends on the person.
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Elfen12
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:33 pm
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Wow Watashi, wait so then if you have a collection (do you) then do you have to hide it? But yeah that will certianly be kind of awkward when they walk in and see it, especially if its at a funky scene, ... but yeah Zanarkand Princess, thats also cool that your dad acutally introduced it to you, that'd be interesting. Also, yeah Dark Elf Warrior i agree, its the eaisest way to live, and yeah it is sad that my friends have to think that way, but you know, what can you do? eh... and yes, people can tell you to not like it, but it doesn't mean anythin'.
-Elfen12-[/quote]
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poonk
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:13 am
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I recently ran into a friend that I hadn't seen in a long time (about a year) and, knowing I was into anime, he asked, "Still watching anime?" to which I responded, "Actually I'm more into the live-action dramas now." He then said, "Outgrown it, huh?" Talk about a loaded question! It struck me as being parallel to the classic "So did you quit beating your wife?" question-- "yes" or "no", no matter how you answer, you seem to be agreeing with the original premise of the question-- in this case, that anime is something childish to be outgrown. Well, I didn't feel like getting into a debate at the time-- we already know one another's feelings about it and it wouldn't have been constructive-- so I just brushed it off with, "I just prefer the live dramas more nowadays" (he already thinks I'm strange, so it's just a matter of degrees at this point-- hmm, maybe there's a reason I haven't seen him in over a year ).
As for my (few) other friends-- well, luckily my very closest friends, with whom I literally grew up, have also come to like anime & dramas, so that's no problem (we naturally influence each other like that; it's part of why we're still friends after so many years). My more casual friends (through work, etc.) probably think it's weird. But precisely because they are "casual", I don't much care what they think. Although I definitely don't hide it, I also don't bring it up because they wouldn't know what I'm talking about anyway and they probably wouldn't care (of course, that doesn't stop them from talking at me about all these American TV shows that I have no interest in, but still). Anyway, in my opinion, your friends don't have to like everything you like, but telling you that what you like is "retarded"? That's just rude and shows a lack of respect for you as a person. "Friends" like that aren't worth keeping.
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urzu_7
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:05 am
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Elfen12 wrote: |
But this little interatction with my mom got me thinking what do people who don't watch anime, think of anime? In my opinion, its different if a person has friends who watch it , than it is if that person doens't have friends who watch anime. Some of us may have been in one of these situations before we started watching anime (I myself being one of those people who had a friend who watched it and i didn't watch it). But given the two situations (1. When a person who doens't watch anime has a friend who does watch anime, 2. When a person who doesn't watch anime does not have a friend who watches anime), do you think the person who doesn't watch anime has positive or negative views towards anime... and do you think that the person who doens't wach anime thinks lesser or better of their friend who does watch anime. Also if it's someone who doens't have a friend who watches anime, what do you think people in that situation think of people who do watch anime (If any differnetly from what they normally would). And if you can remember before you started watching anime, what feelings you had towards anime, whether they be happy, sad, tolerable, good, bad ect... . Also how do you think these people get these feelings towards it, esepcially if these feelings are feelings such as hatred towards it, or if people think anime is stupid or the person who watches it is stupid, and have no reason.
-Elfen12-
I hope this made sense |
I think I understand it..I think haha
Well when I first watched anime which was at a young age, I just thought "ooooh cartoons". Overall I had positive feelings.
I have a friend who has friends who watch anime and he's seen a little bit. However, he had negative feelings about it. He'd tell me about the stuff like cliches, fan service, and how all anime are pretty much the same. So I showed him Full Metal Panic!, my favorite title. He had positve feedback and liked it. Then I showed him Fumoffu and The Second Raid. He enjoyed all 3. I chose not to suggest more anime because he's a really busy guy, but I was able to prove to him that not all anime are the same and that there are awesome ones that're unique
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Alestal
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:00 am
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Well most people seem to assume that anime is dirty and that we watch it for sexual arosement. Like my parents, apparently, I'm an anime porn fanatic(they are kidding).
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Zin5ki
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:27 am
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urzu_7 wrote: | I chose not to suggest more anime because he's a really busy guy |
Alas I suppose you can't be an active fan if you don't have the time. Sooner or later I'll have to bear such a sad fact in mind when deciding what to do with my life.
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zanarkand princess
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:32 am
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Alestal wrote: | Well most people seem to assume that anime is dirty and that we watch it for sexual arosement. Like my parents, apparently, I'm an anime porn fanatic(they are kidding). |
I know what you mean. One of my friends asked me about the book I brought and when I explained that it was manga she was all like "You brought a porn book " and when I said no she said "the only anime I have ever seen is porn." So who's the pervert now? I never got that. Some people get the idea that anime is porn from stuff like ninja scroll. Well could you imagine how people would react at some of the dating sims that come out? all those watchdog groups would try to have in banned.
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