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EP. REVIEW: Your Forma




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Glordit



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:44 pm Reply with quote
FYI there is a prequel on YouTube which explains a few things before the start of the show.
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ktarf



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:00 pm Reply with quote
This has to be one the most baffling adaptation choices I've ever seen. It's one thing when those in charge decide to deliberately change elements because they think they can do better than the source material (newsflash: they can't), but to just skip the beginning of the story and then adapt the rest faithfully as it is? That's insane.

The review is right to ask the question of "why?", as I'd like to know as well. I also thought it might be that they want to finish with volume 4, which I guess would make a slightly better season finale than volume 3, but... it'd still be nowhere near as bad as skipping the first volume. It's especially tragic because I think it's one of the best volumes, along with 2 and 6, and it sets up both the characters and the world. It's of course impossible for anime onlies to care about characters that they've seen for seconds.

I'll try to answer the other questions the review understandably asks. The "Your Forma" is the brain thread that allows people to connect to the network and do all the stuff we expect in a cyberpunk setting, including displaying annoying ads on buildings unless you pay a premium. It also records all the memories, which can be accessed by performing a Brain Dive. The "Luddites" are all the people who refused to install the Your Forma in their brains. The mean things, the pendant, Echika's sister, her distaste of Amicus, her relationship with Harold, all of that is part of the first volume and is essential to the story that follows it, so I don't know how viewers can enjoy the anime without knowing it. I won't go into detail because it's a whole book worth of stuff.

The previous arc, however, is not about the murders of St. Petersburg, though I'm not blaming the reviewer for thinking so given the mess. Those murders are part of Harold's backstory which is partly revealed in volume 1 but it'll be touched on again in the anime as well. The volume 1 arc follows the sensory crime, which gets only mentioned in the anime. It's mostly about Echika and explains everything about her story and her character, which, again, it's obviously incredibly important to understand why she talks and acts like she does. Speaking of which, when they call her "genius" they mean her data processing speed when brain diving, which is so high that she fries any human belayer (the person who helps the diver and pulls them out when they're done) and so she can only work with Harold; as a detective she's not that good, hence the mistakes. Volume 1 ends with the "Amicus attacking a human" event that starts this arc, another thing we don't get to see here.

About the prequel I see mentioned above: while it does recycle some dialogue and plot points, it's not actually from the first volume but rather it's a random original side story set between that and the second volume. It doesn't help.

I guess I ranted enough. It's just so sad. One single dumb choice destroyed all the potential of the anime, with novel readers frustrated and new viewers confused and unable to enjoy it.
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n1nn1nn1n



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:29 pm Reply with quote
This adaptation bums me out because the premise and the promo opening and ending videos caught my eye. I was sad to hear the streaming was going to be limited too. However, the adaptation choices just make it sound like you're better off just reading the light novels, at least to start.
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Dnautics



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:08 pm Reply with quote
It's fine, i'm still going to watch it - just a odd way to start a show. Not like we haven't seen this type of thing before. I don't need everything spelled out for me to enjoy the show.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:04 pm Reply with quote
When Echika is on the rotary phone, she's told it's ok, the line is encrypted. How does the call get decrypted on her end?
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Aerodynamic41



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:14 pm Reply with quote
Seriously, I will never understand the decision to skip Volume 1. The chemistry between Echika and Harold is a core part of this series, and the anime fumbled it by not showing how their relationship was established.

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Harold says he's “said a lot of mean things” to Echika. When? He asks her if she misses her pendant. What pendant? Why is it important, and what does it have to do with her sister? Echika says she's resolved her feelings of hatred towards Amicus. Gee, wouldn't it have been nice to witness this particular bit of presumably foundational character development?


See, that's the problem: The callbacks to Volume 1 are still there so if you didn't read the first novel, you will have no idea what the characters are talking about. When they showed spoiler[Matoi] during the Brain Dive sequence in Episode 2, I was scratching my head over how to explain that part to anime onlies.


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MFrontier



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:38 pm Reply with quote
I think this is a textbook example of what not to do with an adaption, even as much as I like the characters and the setting in-spite of the adaption/story issues.
ktarf wrote:
This has to be one the most baffling adaptation choices I've ever seen. It's one thing when those in charge decide to deliberately change elements because they think they can do better than the source material (newsflash: they can't), but to just skip the beginning of the story and then adapt the rest faithfully as it is? That's insane.

The review is right to ask the question of "why?", as I'd like to know as well. I also thought it might be that they want to finish with volume 4, which I guess would make a slightly better season finale than volume 3, but... it'd still be nowhere near as bad as skipping the first volume. It's especially tragic because I think it's one of the best volumes, along with 2 and 6, and it sets up both the characters and the world. It's of course impossible for anime onlies to care about characters that they've seen for seconds.

Even Kana Hanazawa was confused as to why they were skipping a volume. If your female lead is questioning your narrative decisions, you're in trouble.
Aerodynamic41 wrote:
Seriously, I will never understand the decision to skip Volume 1. The chemistry between Echika and Harold is a core part of this series, and the anime fumbled it by not showing how their relationship was established.

I feel like they're relying on the natural chemistry Kana Hanazawa and Kensho Ono have as a married couple to help sell the relationship and story where the script is lacking and from the lack of any of the actual story set up for it. I think it does work to a degree, but not completely.
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TJ_Kat



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:57 pm Reply with quote
It feels like the producers of this show are trying too hard to make it Ghost in the Shell. Ghost in the Shell tends to drop the viewer straight into the action in episode 1 with no explanation, then build the characters and story afterwards, and it seems like that's what they were trying to do here. And failed pretty miserably.

Finding out that they skipped the entire first LN actually makes sense of the fact that so much of the story doesn't make sense, if that makes sense...
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Glordit



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:35 am Reply with quote
Remow has now put a time limit of 1-week on episode 4 onwards.

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Starting from the 4th installment, all episodes will be available for 1 week only.
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