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Lann
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:37 am
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People used to say that cell art was more beautiful than digital. I have to disagree completely. True, digital animation didn't look that great in the early 2000's, but look at it now.
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mewpudding101
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:40 am
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Lann wrote: | People used to say that cell art was more beautiful than digital. I have to disagree completely. True, digital animation didn't look that great in the early 2000's, but look at it now. |
I have to disagree with stuff like Pokemon, where it was merely done to make things easier and not prettier.
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FireAza
Joined: 25 Jan 2012
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:22 am
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Wow, I knew Saize-san was one of the last ones, but I had no idea they were still using them in 2013! I've recently started collecting cels, and it's a shame that most of my favorite series were digitally animated Still, it means we get better looking animation on a lower budget.
I'd heard the main reason for the switch to digital was the factory that produced cels had stopped manufacturing them, wonder where they were sourcing them from?
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Marzan
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:32 am
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End of an era. The switch was inevitable and digital looks pretty sweet nowadays. Nevertheless, the very best examples of cel animation have a warmth and a texture that is hard to reproduce digitally.
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FireChick
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:33 am
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I'm going to miss cel anime. Sure I was born in 1993, but a lot of my favorite anime are cel animated, and cels are a lot easier on my eyes than digital animation (though that's just personal preference). But that doesn't mean I hate all digital produced anime!
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Xshinobi
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:34 am
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As a fan of Cel animation and older anime in general this is kinda depressing. Nothing beats it imo. On a different topic I really hate the use of so much CGI in modern anime. It always looks out of place and most shows don't even try to mimic the animation style when using CGI. I miss the the 80s and early 90s of anime.
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Kutsu
Joined: 23 Apr 2011
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:39 am
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I've always liked cel animation much more than digital. It might be smoother nowadays but it often lacks the 'warmth' cels had.
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Dessa
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:43 am
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*plays Taps*
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Cutiebunny
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:49 am
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I collect anime cels, and as much as I'd like to make the transition to CG artwork, I find myself constantly being pulled back to cels. Cels are colored. They're vibrant. When I look at them, I feel like I'm getting the complete picture, especially with a background, matching or not. With CG, the sketches are usually black trace lines on white paper, and it just feels incomplete. The eyes usually aren't colored, so the character looks 'dead' to me. Not that there aren't great douga and genga sketches in CG anime, but it just doesn't draw me in as much as a cel does.
Reading this article makes me sad that the era of cel based animation is now completely gone in Japan. It makes me appreciate what I have even more.
FYI, if you're interested in collecting cels, it's still a great time to do so. If you sign up for a deputy service, you can take advantage of Yahoo Japan. There's good artwork out there for all budgets. You can find cels for a couple dollars, or a couple thousand.
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Blood-
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:50 am
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I'm ambidextrous on the subject of cel vs. digital. I like 'em both. Kacky CGI is really kacky, but when it's done well, it can be great.
However, I am saddened the cel animation has gone the way of the Dodo bird. I'd love to be able to continue to enjoy both methods.
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thekingsdinner
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:06 am
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Marzan wrote: | End of an era. |
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configspace
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:06 am
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We still have cel animation. They're just digital cels, without the shakiness, and hairs/dirt/grain artifacts of film.
Now, because the production is more efficient, there's more detail, more effects, more dynamic scenes, and more accuracy all around that is more affordable (man hours, labor). Things like simple but large panning were a pain in the old days.
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Zhou-BR
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:04 am
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I'll always miss hand-painted animation, especially because of its texture and the mood it evoked, but I made my peace with digital animation over a decade ago. The first examples of digitally painted anime like the Saber Marionette J Again OVA looked atrocious, but once studios started to use 24p frame rate and grain filters to mimic film's look and feel, new shows started to look as good as cel-animated ones, if not better.
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Touma
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:39 am
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When looking at the end result, such as a DVD, what is the visible difference between a drawing that is copied onto a cel and a drawing that is scanned into a computer?
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Zhou-BR
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:03 am
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Touma wrote: | When looking at the end result, such as a DVD, what is the visible difference between a drawing that is copied onto a cel and a drawing that is scanned into a computer? |
Digitally painted shows have a glossier, clearer look, while hand-painted shows look grainier and more textured.
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