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SamTheNayru



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:37 am Reply with quote
At least Railgun's BDs sold more than S1 vol.1 week 1, but I wonder if it'll reach the 26k after a few weeks with DVDs combined...?
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:43 am Reply with quote
Dat UtaPrince fall. Event tickets/raffle tickets do work some goddamn amazing magic, don't they? Oh, the show's quality? I guess it's important, but you gotta meet those seiyuus, dear God you must.
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dan9999



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:47 am Reply with quote
Yamato and then GITS ARISE with 12 K, great! Jojo up there as well. GOOD.
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mistress_kisara



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:52 am Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Dat UtaPrince fall. Event tickets/raffle tickets do work some goddamn amazing magic, don't they? Oh, the show's quality? I guess it's important, but you gotta meet those seiyuus, dear God you must.

Its not like its totally unexpected but its still almost double S1 V2 which was 13K+
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:54 am Reply with quote
Really disappointing that the HxH movie didn't crack the top 10.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:32 am Reply with quote
Not bad Ghost in the Shell I see that franchise is still strong,I am suspecting that they made most of the revenue from movie theaters though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:24 am Reply with quote
God is back finally, where she belongs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:45 am Reply with quote
danilo07 wrote:
Not bad Ghost in the Shell I see that franchise is still strong,I am suspecting that they made most of the revenue from movie theaters though.


GITS was never popular. In Japan, at least. The first movie made 20% of it's budget back and the 2nd movie made like 30% of its budget. They also didn't sell too well on home video. Also, 12,000 is pretty lame for an OVA. It's not even that great for a TV series and considering how Production IG loves to give GITS ultra high production values(The first movie cost like $10 million, the SAC series cost like $300,000 per episode, the Solid State Society OVA was nearly $4 million, the 2nd movie was $20 million), they certainly did not make their budget back. I'd estimate the budget was anything from $1-3 million per episode.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:58 am Reply with quote
YamadaKun wrote:
Also, 12,000 is pretty lame for an OVA. It's not even that great for a TV series...


More trolling from you. Twelve thousand units sold per volume is definitely great sales for a television series.

(And the OVA sold close to fifteen thousand units when DVD sales are added in.)

As for your comments about the films, almost all decent-budget Anime movies fail to recoup their full costs in the cinema; where they make their money is in the subsequent home video sales.
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ColonelYao47



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:46 am Reply with quote
Oh my Madoka, that's a ton of sales (and for a recap, no less). To think, the price point makes this all a push to make it the next transcendent franchise like EVA.

Slightly surprised that with its drop, UtaPri stlll managed to outsell GITSA...
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Pokenatic



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:50 am Reply with quote
Wow, Attack on Titan didn't manage to post 2nd week numbers on the BD chart.
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danilo07



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:58 am Reply with quote
Here is an interview with Mitsuhisa Ishikawa dude that produced Ghost in the Shell: Arise,and he talked a bit about popularity of GItS in Japan. http://animediet.net/conventions/mitsuhisa-ishikawa-press-conference-liveblog
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Ishikawa has figures: Arise played on 20 screens for 2 weeks, but it earned 100 million dollars. Yes, dollars, not yen. GitS is still popular.

Yeah and if you think 14 000 units per volume are low sales for OVA you dont know a lot sales do you.
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CrownKlown



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:17 am Reply with quote
ColonelYao47 wrote:
Oh my Madoka, that's a ton of sales (and for a recap, no less). To think, the price point makes this all a push to make it the next transcendent franchise like EVA.

Slightly surprised that with its drop, UtaPri stlll managed to outsell GITSA...


By transcendent, do you mean mediocre mess of a show that manage to get undue praise? Then yes, what a transcendent show. Then again no one has ever accused the Japanese Otaku culture of having respectable taste.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:33 am Reply with quote
@danilo07 I'm sure the "$100 million" bullshit was a reversal. More like 100 million yen. No anime, outside of 5 Ghibli movies(4 by Miyazaki and 5 written by him) has done over $100 million in Japan alone. 100 million yen is shit for GITS. And not GITS, was never popular in Japan. The fanboys are mainly from the UK and US and France. It doesn't have a decent sized Japanese fanbase. And yes, 14,000 is low for GITS. Read. GITS. Hell, since most OVAs are several times the cost of the typical TV program, 14,000 is at best, moderate. More like breaking even.

@dtm42 Not true. Anime movies are very cheap to make. Something like under $900,000-$2.5million on average to make. We all know One Piece movies didn't cost anything close to the box office grosses they make, which is anything from $7,090,891-$72,000,000+ for obvious reasons and before you use the "Not everything is One Piece" shtick, no you're right, but loads of anime films would EASILY make their budget back. GITS made like $2 million out of its $10 million. It did not re-coup this budget back in Japan in any format. Sure, GITS was pretty ambitious, but it bombed in Japan. No denying that. You'd have a point if you were talking about something like Tangled, which slightly bombed in the US, but together with box office gross, made back its budget. You need to realize just how "cheap" it is to make an anime. $34 million for a 2D movie was considered the highest out of any true anime. $140 million was how much is cost to make that shitty Atlantis film. Alright, I'm gonna stop talking and let you realize your idiocy and your lack of knowledge about anime costs.
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Zhou-BR



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:41 am Reply with quote
YamadaKun wrote:
@danilo07 I'm sure the "$100 million" bullshit was a reversal. More like 100 million yen. No anime, outside of 5 Ghibli movies(4 by Miyazaki and 5 written by him) has done over $100 million in Japan alone. 100 million yen is shit for GITS. And not GITS, was never popular in Japan. The fanboys are mainly from the UK and US and France. It doesn't have a decent sized Japanese fanbase. And yes, 14,000 is low for GITS. Read. GITS. Hell, since most OVAs are several times the cost of the typical TV program, 14,000 is at best, moderate. More like breaking even.


For a franchise that "was never popular in Japan", GitS sure sold a lot over there. According to this thread, SAC averaged over 16k per volume, while 2nd Gig averaged over 19k. Solid State Society, in turn, sold over 40k if you count the 3D re-release, and even the polarizing Innocence sold over 150k if you factor in all releases.


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