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Nabari no Ou Precision Errors Galore




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JackCox



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:34 pm Reply with quote
I've marked a bunch on this page and it needs it's fixing.
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JackCox



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:58 am Reply with quote
To Summarize briefly, Character names are not correctly written, they also are not in their right place with regards to roles, and one person has started a new page for Christopher Sabat by accidently leaving out the . after R.
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JackCox



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:58 pm Reply with quote
I know you guys are pretty busy but this page really could use a fix, In fact as I have said before I would love to be an encyclopedia editor so I could be able to fix this faster. I've been trying quite a while to become one and I have not gotten a response at all.
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dormcat
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:12 am Reply with quote
JackCox wrote:
I know you guys are pretty busy but this page really could use a fix, In fact as I have said before I would love to be an encyclopedia editor so I could be able to fix this faster. I've been trying quite a while to become one and I have not gotten a response at all.

First, there's no "guys" here anymore. I'm the only one remaining who is still actively fixing the non-technical aspects of the Encyclopedia.

Second, the "importance" of roles are far less "important" than the name implies. It is probably on the very bottom of my to-do list, not to mention that such importance can be very subjective. Furthermore, I don't want to give people an impression that more vocal people get their wishes granted faster. I've moved roles of Nabari no Ō according to your suggestions, but many of them still contain red error tags (see below).

Third, to fix an incomplete role name (usually given name-only), the correct way would be not only submitting an error report, but accompany the complete name with credit. In this way you get the full credit, while the original submitter could still get a partial credit for the incomplete but still correct name.

Fourth, I've noticed a few of reports submitted by you and others are "precision-only" i.e. adds only the episodic precision for a cast/staff but not adding or modifying the information itself. Due to technical limitations this could only be done by editing the original submission directly by a few senior staffs, but Dan is fixing this right now to allow precisions to be accumulative. I'll let him to pick the right time to explain the details.

Last but the most important: you've requested to become an Encyclopedia editor for more than once. However, most of your error reports and source info provided for your submissions are either subjective ("John Doe should be a secondary character") or very difficult to double check with ("DVD credits"). In cases like YouTube and even press releases on this very website, you have never (in my memory; maybe you had but I was not lucky enough to see them) provided URL to save our time; rather, you simply stated "YouTube video" or "Funimation press release." This makes working with your credits very time consuming and exhausting; if you were us, would you invite someone who unnecessarily increases your workload to become your coworker?

Oh, and there's one more thing: your statement in this post pretty much vetoed yourself:
JackCox wrote:
My reason for removal of the Animax dub is because it is not the official Licensed North American Dub.
This ultra-America-centric -- almost xenophobic in my eyes -- attitude makes me afraid to hand you the access to handle Encyclopedia credits.

It is not saying you can never become part of the teamwork. You have been around for more than three years and I believe you are capable to learn and improve yourself, notably the points I mentioned above. By then I assure you that we'll welcome you -- as long as you are still interested to this rather boring "job."
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JackCox



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:13 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
JackCox wrote:
I know you guys are pretty busy but this page really could use a fix, In fact as I have said before I would love to be an encyclopedia editor so I could be able to fix this faster. I've been trying quite a while to become one and I have not gotten a response at all.

First, there's no "guys" here anymore. I'm the only one remaining who is still actively fixing the non-technical aspects of the Encyclopedia.

Second, the "importance" of roles are far less "important" than the name implies. It is probably on the very bottom of my to-do list, not to mention that such importance can be very subjective. Furthermore, I don't want to give people an impression that more vocal people get their wishes granted faster. I've moved roles of Nabari no Ō according to your suggestions, but many of them still contain red error tags (see below).

Third, to fix an incomplete role name (usually given name-only), the correct way would be not only submitting an error report, but accompany the complete name with credit. In this way you get the full credit, while the original submitter could still get a partial credit for the incomplete but still correct name.

Fourth, I've noticed a few of reports submitted by you and others are "precision-only" i.e. adds only the episodic precision for a cast/staff but not adding or modifying the information itself. Due to technical limitations this could only be done by editing the original submission directly by a few senior staffs, but Dan is fixing this right now to allow precisions to be accumulative. I'll let him to pick the right time to explain the details.

Last but the most important: you've requested to become an Encyclopedia editor for more than once. However, most of your error reports and source info provided for your submissions are either subjective ("John Doe should be a secondary character") or very difficult to double check with ("DVD credits"). In cases like YouTube and even press releases on this very website, you have never (in my memory; maybe you had but I was not lucky enough to see them) provided URL to save our time; rather, you simply stated "YouTube video" or "Funimation press release." This makes working with your credits very time consuming and exhausting; if you were us, would you invite someone who unnecessarily increases your workload to become your coworker?

Oh, and there's one more thing: your statement in this post pretty much vetoed yourself:
JackCox wrote:
My reason for removal of the Animax dub is because it is not the official Licensed North American Dub.
This ultra-America-centric -- almost xenophobic in my eyes -- attitude makes me afraid to hand you the access to handle Encyclopedia credits.

It is not saying you can never become part of the teamwork. You have been around for more than three years and I believe you are capable to learn and improve yourself, notably the points I mentioned above. By then I assure you that we'll welcome you -- as long as you are still interested to this rather boring "job."


4. Admittedly I have been occasionally lazy sometimes to provide the URL so I will give you that, I am trying to me more precise. Because DVD's are coming in Halves now, adding per episode on the set is incredibly difficult because there are other characters come in and out at different times, thus if a certain character comes in at a different time, It's very difficult to go back and change it.

Firstly I am not Xenophobic I just think it makes the page extremely cluttered, but If it is as wished that you want the info to remain, I understand, I would just like to find a way to separate both dubs into separate columns so that I do not have to see the clutter. I'm a little retentive about this and I think it just makes the page look bad. That's just my opinion.

I would like to see changes to the Precision, There are some people like me who have to keep track of Shows WITH TONS AND TONS OF EPISODES and I wish the Precision column could be made unlimited.

If I could have access to my past credits I might be able to properly source them but I cannot at the moment.

As well with regards to the Script Situation on Nabari, You deleted the Precision I had added under scripts. Because I cannot edit the ADR Script Part I had to make a separate Script. I promise If i can work as an editor here I will not be making edits with regards to animax dubs or anything like that, I just want them separate like at one top of the Column you could list the Funimation Credits and then at the next you can list the Animax Credits. But no I am not xenophobic. I'm just very retentive about information and I enjoy working with it. So I would love to resource my work but honestly, I'm not a vandal I just really want to work to clean this place up.
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