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The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (TV).

I doubt this type of outright flaming is allowed on this or any board.

It was only a suggestion that some of the votes were spammed out, and I know for a fact that it can have an effect because I've seen it happen.

I feel the same way about Goto, annoying but fitting in most cases.

Maybe it's just me, but if those were all legitimate votes it should be in the shape of a bell curve, not an INVERSE bell curve. The lowest point should ALWAYS be either 1 or 10, not 3/4

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Furthermore, although Suzumiya Haruhi herself stereotypes Itsuki Koizumi as a mysterious transfer student, all of the major characters in the show are stereotypes, to one degree or another. Haruhi is the short tempered, aggressive heroine that we're seen before as Chidori Kaname from Full Metal Panic, Kaoru Kamiya in Rurouni Kenshin, and Tomo Takino from Azumanga Daioh. Kyon is the typical passive male protagonist from slice of life anime. He's similar to characters like Hiroyuki Fujita of To Heart and Kenji Tomosaka from Lamune. Yuki is the robotic introvert in the vein of Nadesico's Ruri Hoshino, Evangelion's Rei Ayanami, and Ninomai Kisaragi from Happy Lesson. Mikuru Asahina is the shy and easily embarrassed klutz, similar to Ai Yori Aoshi's Taeko Minazuki and Mahoromatic's Minawa Ando. The characters are interesting and fun, but not ground breaking.

The parallels he's drawn between the characters from other series are stretched rather thin. Just because a story's characters share some superficial similarities to characters from other stories does not render them stereotypical.

This is from a few pages back but I just had to answer. If you think that the HSnY character are even *slightly* original, you are utterly deluding yourself. Sure they are well fleshed, but even within the show, Suzumiya herself refers to Mikuru as the "moe lolita character", to Yuki as the "indispensable silent character", to Itsuki as the "mysterious transfer student". The show *itself* revels in the stereotypicalness of its characters, so don't even try to pretend they are original.



Steroid had some great arguments; I wish people would stop being so over-protective of HSnY. Sure it's great, but it looks like a lot of people have entrenched themselves and refuse to believe that it might have some (gasp!) un-original elements to it. If I had to name the theme of the series, I would say it's something like "we may want excitement and adventures from time to time, but in the end having a normal life is the best". Anobody else? What do you think the theme is? (if there is one)

Suzumiya herself refers to Mikuru as the "moe lolita character", to Yuki as the "indispensable silent character", to Itsuki as the "mysterious transfer student".

Steroid had some great arguments; I wish people would stop being so over-protective of HSnY. Sure it's great, but it looks like a lot of people have entrenched themselves and refuse to believe that it might have some (gasp!) un-original elements to it. If I had to name the theme of the series, I would say it's something like "we may want excitement and adventures from time to time, but in the end having a normal life is the best". Anobody else? What do you think the theme is? (if there is one)

you have to take kyon's complaints with a grain of salt...
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you have to take haruhi's comments with a grain of salt as well

You know, there's an ancient Chinese curse that goes something like, "May you live in interesting times."

Zero89 wrote:

you have to take kyon's complaints with a grain of salt... <snip> you have to take haruhi's comments with a grain of salt as well

Occam's razor states that the obvious is more likely than the un-obvious read-between-the-lines taken-with-a-grain-of-salt interpretation. Likewise with the character archetypes. Yuki may have a subtle (very subtle) sense of humor, but in the big picture she's still a overwhelmingly stereotypical quiet-type character.