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Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga - Dame Dame Saito Nikki


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here-and-faraway



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:35 pm Reply with quote
Sounds wonderful. The posted samples look gorgeous and I (usually) think it's a lot of fun to see how America is depicted in manga and anime. I have to wonder though, if her impression of America is San Francisco, well... we're kind of a different breed in Northern California...

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You may lynch me now, although if you do, I'll never get the chance to write about Viz's planned release of Haoh Airen.


Now you've piqued my curiosity.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:45 pm Reply with quote
Those images have me rather intrigued. I mean, they include the Powerpuff Girls, and Batman as drawn in Batman the Animated Series, and Catwoman's Batman Returns costume.
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That Powerpuff Girls page is amazing. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:37 am Reply with quote
It's nice for someone like Saito to draw foreign culture through actual experience. I think Otaku culture here has changed since 2001, but geeks are geeks no matter what culture they're raised in.

Honestly, I don't know how many manga artists in Japan do draw manga from life experience and/or research, but sometimes I get incredulous with their credential on certain subjects they draw. Artists have liberty to tell their stories anyway they want, but a lot of them are seem to have this lingering tunnel vision that makes their story feel disconnected from rest of the world.

Please prove me wrong, but it's just an impression that I get after reading various manga genres.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:57 am Reply with quote
I met Tomoko Saito at a US anime con many years ago. She was very nice. She is a talented artist in her own right. Some of her artwork was on display, and I was in awe of her masterful use of screentone. She is the wife of Toren Smith, formerly of Studio Proteus (and the inspiration for Noriko's ill-fated crush Smith Toren in Gunbuster).
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BorgmanJayce



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:50 am Reply with quote
Jason, do you know who would have published this manga in English if it had come out? (Personally, I think it would have probably been Dark Horse themselves)

I seriously want to cry that such a awesome manga like this will probably never come out in English and the fact that there wasn't an Tankobon version makes me want to cry even more! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:52 am Reply with quote
ZenAmako wrote:
I met Tomoko Saito at a US anime con many years ago. She was very nice. She is a talented artist in her own right. Some of her artwork was on display, and I was in awe of her masterful use of screentone. She is the wife of Toren Smith, formerly of Studio Proteus (and the inspiration for Noriko's ill-fated crush Smith Toren in Gunbuster).

As ZenAmako indirectly points out, the mangaka in question is Tomoko Saito, not the producer Tomoyuki Saito (as stated throughout the review). Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:03 am Reply with quote
I like hearing about Japanese people's thoughts on America and also like seeing America get made fun of in manga and anime. As long as It's all in good fun. Wish I could find this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:36 am Reply with quote
here-and-faraway wrote:
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You may lynch me now, although if you do, I'll never get the chance to write about Viz's planned release of Haoh Airen.


Now you've piqued my curiosity.

I'm 99% sure that's just a piece of snark. If Viz was going to actually release HA, they'd have done so years ago when they announced it. Not now after eons of silence and "What title was that?"
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:39 am Reply with quote
Guessing the manga wasn't that good for Japanese readers to like her manga enough to be collected in tankoubon? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:58 am Reply with quote
It's somewhat of a shame it's old enough to be so different from today's situation (flipping manga and chopping it into American-style one-chapter flappy things is downright quaint) but I still really want to read it regardless.

And I can't.

Well, just another edition of Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga That Aren't Available Anywhere.
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bravetailor



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:11 pm Reply with quote
reanimator wrote:
It's nice for someone like Saito to draw foreign culture through actual experience. I think Otaku culture here has changed since 2001, but geeks are geeks no matter what culture they're raised in.

Honestly, I don't know how many manga artists in Japan do draw manga from life experience and/or research, but sometimes I get incredulous with their credential on certain subjects they draw. Artists have liberty to tell their stories anyway they want, but a lot of them are seem to have this lingering tunnel vision that makes their story feel disconnected from rest of the world.

Please prove me wrong, but it's just an impression that I get after reading various manga genres.


Maybe you also need to read outside of manga because this is a common problem with artists from ANY country. When talkin about subjects foreign to home soil, artists will almost always trip up. Even the most intelligent ones. I still wince when I read a book about my culture and it gets so many facts wrong, even when written by someone who's otherwise quite intelligent.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:43 pm Reply with quote
doc-watson42 wrote:
ZenAmako wrote:
I met Tomoko Saito at a US anime con many years ago. She was very nice. She is a talented artist in her own right. Some of her artwork was on display, and I was in awe of her masterful use of screentone. She is the wife of Toren Smith, formerly of Studio Proteus (and the inspiration for Noriko's ill-fated crush Smith Toren in Gunbuster).

As ZenAmako indirectly points out, the mangaka in question is Tomoko Saito, not the producer Tomoyuki Saito (as stated throughout the review). Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop


The mangaka who did "Dame Dame Saito Nikki" is named Tomoyuki Saito, since that's the name printed throughout the pages, as well as on the "Animal Magnetism" CD-ROM. As for whether it's a pen-name, though, that's a veerrrrrrry good question.

However, I'm also pretty sure she's a different Tomoyuki Saito from the one listed on ANN as an anime producer. She doesn't talk anywhere in the story about working on anime; she only talks about working as a mangaka and translator/letterer.
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ptolemy18
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:47 pm Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
It's somewhat of a shame it's old enough to be so different from today's situation (flipping manga and chopping it into American-style one-chapter flappy things is downright quaint) but I still really want to read it regardless.

And I can't.

Well, just another edition of Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga That Aren't Available Anywhere.


Sorry man. I really want to read Go Nagai's "Allah-kun", myself...
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ZenAmako



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:26 pm Reply with quote
ptolemy18 wrote:
The mangaka who did "Dame Dame Saito Nikki" is named Tomoyuki Saito, since that's the name printed throughout the pages, as well as on the "Animal Magnetism" CD-ROM. As for whether it's a pen-name, though, that's a veerrrrrrry good question.


It might be a pen name. The manga artist who worked at Studio Proteus and did lettering and touch-up art on titles like Blade of the Immortal goes by the name Tomoko Saito in the US, though.

Edit: I think Tomoyuki is typically a boy's name (although there are probably exceptions).
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