Forum - View topicNEWS: Frontier Works, KaKa Creation Reveal Twins Hinahima AI Anime
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YackDe
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13 years was a good run, but going to break my streak of watching basically every anime original that pops up in a season. Great job choosing to make a show look worse so you can have an excuse to pay people less because they're only "touching up" whatever plagiarized garbage a prompt spits out.
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thekingsdinner
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This depresses me so much... I can only hope for the best and for this to fail spectacularly.
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Kougeru
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anime is officially ending. it was a good 108 years
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Blanchimont
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Interesting. Also feels quite high-profile. Looking forward to see how it turns out.
Shouldn't be anything wrong using AI as supporting tools, I don't see that to be much different from using other tools in software suites like Adobe. |
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FilthyCasual
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The hair rippling looks very unnatural.
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fathomlessblue
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I wonder if they also used AI to come up with the name KaKa Creation? If so, the machine might be more self-aware than the actual staff.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Can we not get overly pessimistic over this? |
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Key
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This is an experiment, and it's an experiment which should be done to see how effective AI support can be in the animation process.
And to be clear, they're not saying that the whole thing is AI-generated, just that AI is being used in most cuts. I can easily see a day coming where some of the most tedious grunt-work tasks in animation (like in-betweens) get relegated to AI support, and I'm curious to see how far along AI tech is towards that end. Hence, I'll be giving this one a fair shot. |
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Lactobacillus yogurti
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People will call it an experiment in innovation and seeing what can be done.
It's just trying to cut costs and replace people because what's the only thing corporations respond to? MONEY. |
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Ermat_46
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Companies are free to make AI-generated anime. However, should they insist on this crap, any moral argument against piracy just simply vanishes at this point. After all, if corporations don't respect the intellectual property of others, why should I?
(Inb4 someone commented that "they just use their own drawings as data sets and nothing else". To which I say, anything that uses generative AI trampled on some other artist's copyrighted work, unless they prove otherwise. So again, the question of why should I respect intellectual property if corporations don't.) |
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power moon
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This is not a big IP Reboot made by a monopoly. It's a small studio that wanted to do things differently. This is not Disney or Microsoft we're talking about. I know people are scared but there's a difference between this and the actual bad stuff large corpos are doing. (Which, mind you, isn't just because of AI, in fact i'd say that Merger Layoffs and Outsourcing are the bigger problem right now) |
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power moon
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Ah, yes. Because this anime is totally stealing the... Generic Anime Girl Style that millions of Anime a year use. Also, by your own logic, anytime a fan makes art of some copyrighted work (like say, a fangame or even just a drawing of a character) they are "stealing" the intellectual property too. You're literally saying it's fine for Nintendo to just ban any fangame regardless of the author's intent, for example. Listen, i get that you don't like AI, that's fine and i respect that, but things about Copyright aren't as clear cut as you think, the whole "Stealing Work" argument could honestly be used by big corporations to limit what actual artists can do with their property without their permission. Heck, it might limit what can be used by artists for inspiration (Imagine if suddenly every Museum decided to Trademark all the art they have so that other people can't even reference it in their work) since using images from the Internet is a huge source for artist around the world. Just saying, this thing is honestly way more complicated that a lot of people realize. |
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Vanadise
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You've got a point, but also, why even bother consuming something that wasn't made by a human? If big companies start using generative AI to make anime, I'll just drop them and spend my time and attention on smaller creators that are still human-powered.
Um, this is already true. Fan works are copyright infringement. I mean, you could argue about the accuracy of "stealing" as a euphemism for copyright infringement, but many big companies, including Nintendo, have used this to take down fan creators who use their work in ways they don't approve of. Remember that time Nintendo sent a takedown to AM2R? We've also got Fox suing people who make Aliens fangames and Square-Enix taking down a fan remake of Chrono Trigger. Most of the time, most companies don't go after fan creators because they realize pursuing legal action against your fans is unprofitable and very bad PR, but the legality here is clear. |
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power moon
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Here's the thing, AI in my opinion is and should be tool that artists are fully in their right to use for whatever project they are. I feel like people are scared of AI because Big Corpos can and probably WILL use it to cut corners, which is fair, but i also think that people are just putting so much blame on AI for stuff that Corporations have been doing since the dawn of capitalism. I honestly think that the AI hate is getting tiresome and won't lead to any real change as far as i'm aware. (No, i'm not an AI Bro, i just don't care about hating on stuff in the Internet and think it's better to do something else) If people instead of getting scared and angry anytime a new project that has AI is it actually use that time creating in their own way it i think we would get to more positive results. Be the change that you want to happen and all that. |
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