Forum - View topicNEWS: Anime Expo 2020 Cancelled Due to COVID-19
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Kougeru
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So key things in this quote: 1. The situation hasn't really been "Changing" for awhile in any real sense of the word. It's been AWFUL for at least 2 months now. So that's a weird reason to give. 2. the mention of restrictions says everything. They're only doing this because they have to I don't like assuming the worst in people but it's pretty clear that they (and others like them such as Naka-kon that canceled it literally the day before the event was supposed to take place because they were FORCED to by the State) care far more about their money than the lives of the people attending. |
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TarsTarkas
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Sounds like Anime Expo finally cleared all their contracts so they can cancel without penalty.
Now for Otakon to follow. |
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JonDoe
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I was wondering when they were finally going to announce this.
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XerneasYveltal
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I knew it was going to happen because so many events around the world are apparently being called off.
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kotomikun
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The one silver lining is that this is the first time in 30 years we can say that AX is axed.
I mean, that and the fact that the event won't inexplicably go forward, have one-tenth the normal attendance, and give the whole community a bad name. |
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invalidname
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I’m starting to wonder if we’ll see any conventions actually going on in the US this calendar year. If summer reopenings are limited to smaller assemblies like office work, and large crowd events are the last thing to come back, that could certainly blow out conventions not just through summer but even the fall.
Two weeks ago, I thought the odds of Otakon (late July) happening were 50-50, and AWA (late October) 75%, but now I think I should adjust those down to 0% and 25%, respectively. |
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catandmouse
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I’m thinking that Sacanime over Labor Day Weekend might not be happening either.
Last year I went to a record number of cons, this year may prove to be a record for me as well...no cons. |
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Beatdigga
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Any convention through October-November is likely axed. NYCC, Anime NYC, Otakon, etc. All done. No one wants to be that close until their safety can be guaranteed, and at best that will be 12-18 months.
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capt_bunny
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I'm glad that it's cancelled. Before anyone says that all conventions are always packed; I have to remind you about how many people, pictures, and articles saying how over crowded AX can become. I've been to AX over the past couple of years so I also speak from experience. It's the anti COVID19 safety. There are so many people bumping or having to stay close to reach other. Hopefully things calm down soon with least amount of cases and AX move their area to somewhere bigger. I doubt it on the last but do wish for everyone to be healthy as possible.
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kotomikun
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Sac is still using a backup location because the convention center is being renovated, which itself may take extra time because of the virus, so it seems likely that event will also not happen. Glad I decided to go to (part of) ALA this year... gonna be the last con for a while, it seems. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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For those who perennially accuse AX of being a money-grubbing organization only concerned with $$$ (or lots of words to that effect), this should show that is not entirely valid. I am sure they lost a lot of money or stand to and if the critics were right, they would still be holding out betting on things settling by July and not offering refunds or money transfer to next year's event. But this was the sensible thing to do and I severely doubt ANN or ComiCon "forced" them to do it either as the critics would offer as explanation.
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Is it ENTIRELY valid? Probably not. However, they have shown over numerous occasions over many years what matters most. I do not think they wish harm on others, but I also do not believe they are altruistic either. Of course ANN & SDCC didn't "force" them to cancel. The state of California however could have, and almost certainly would have. The fact that SDCC canceled and they are arguably even bigger, plus their date was AFTER AX, really gave AX no excuse not to cancel now. Waiting any real length of time after SDCC canceled their con would just make them look worse. They know that. They know the California government would never have let the con actually happen. The sensible thing to do would have been cancel the event at the beginning of this month when it was clear things are not getting better. Not waiting until you have no choice without looking extremely bad. |
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TarsTarkas
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You are right, the writing has been on the wall for awhile now. I am no lawyer so you can dash me to pieces if I am wrong. COVID 19 is nothing to the law, if the government doesn't say it is. Until the government says nothing is going to happen in the summer with firm time periods, they have kind of left these conventions and organizations in a legal limbo. Yes, the odds they are going to have paid guests is absolutely low, and the paying members attending, probably wouldn't be profitable at all. But there is a lot of contract liability out there and without a firm government mandate, that absolves them of liability who wants financial penalties. As a contractor, I have seen the same thing. Companies have to make sure they are not going to be penalized for stopping work. Without that government mandate they could be held liable for breaking contracts or failing to meet contracted timelines. Who wants to lose more money and fight contract cases in civil court. Its a dog eat dog business world out there. Last edited by TarsTarkas on Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:24 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Kaylee Smerbeck
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I mean maybe Anime Nyc mean it is in November so maybe it clears up but at the same time it might not due to cold weather. Also Anibash might be on since it's outdoors |
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Gina Szanboti
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Considering con crud is a thing, this would've been con crud on super steroids. I can't imagine cons will be back until there's a reliable vaccine that most people have received.
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