| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
|
|
|
John Thacker
Joined: 28 Oct 2013
Posts: 1009
|
 Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:52 pm
|
 |
|
| Quote: | | My father was caught having an affair and was divorced by my grandfather. |
"was made to divorce [my mother] by my grandfather." (or even just "and my grandfather made him divorce [my mother].") Passive causative (祖父に離婚させられた) is always confusing and sometimes unnatural when put literally in English.
Interesting article, thanks for passing it along!
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
Posts: 6233
Location: Houston, TX
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:07 pm
|
|
|
|
Spoiler: It's full of angst.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
AksaraKishou
Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 1414
Location: End of the World
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:08 pm
|
|
|
She should be named Mari "Prolific" Okada from the amount of times i need the damn word attached to her name <.<
Also, what the hell did i just read..?
Did she really ask someone to draw boobs for her or is this some sort of euphemism? O.o
Last edited by AksaraKishou on Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:56 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
relyat08
Joined: 20 Mar 2013
Posts: 4125
Location: Northern Virginia
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:53 pm
|
|
|
|
Wow, I want to read this. It sounds utterly fascinating. I can easily see how these things translated into her works.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
zensunni
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
Posts: 1294
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:27 pm
|
|
|
| AksaraKishou wrote: | She should be named Mari "Prolific" Okada from the amount of times i need the damn word attached to her name <.<
Also, what the hell did i just read..?
Did she really ask someone to draw boobs for her or is this some sort of euphemism? O.o |
Or did she ask him to draw HER boobs? In other words, should that be "my" not "me"? (If it is me she might have something in common with the author of "My Lesbian experience with Loneliness."....)
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
Lemonchest
Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Posts: 1771
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:29 pm
|
|
|
Does the main character die at the end?
| Quote: | | Once there was a fight and I commanded one of her boyfriends to draw me boobs. |
Now that's a story!
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
AksaraKishou
Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 1414
Location: End of the World
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:40 pm
|
|
|
| zensunni wrote: |
| AksaraKishou wrote: | She should be named Mari "Prolific" Okada from the amount of times i need the damn word attached to her name <.<
Also, what the hell did i just read..?
Did she really ask someone to draw boobs for her or is this some sort of euphemism? O.o |
Or did she ask him to draw HER boobs? In other words, should that be "my" not "me"? (If it is me she might have something in common with the author of "My Lesbian experience with Loneliness."....) |
You can also change "draw" with "touch" or that "draw" might even be of the "draw your gun" kind. As in, once again, touch my boobs. 
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
BodaciousSpacePirate
 Subscriber
Joined: 17 Apr 2015
Posts: 3019
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:41 pm
|
|
|
| zensunni wrote: | | Or did she ask him to draw HER boobs? In other words, should that be "my" not "me"? |
Maybe it was Talk Like a Pirate Day. "Draw me boobs, you scallywag!"
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
relyat08
Joined: 20 Mar 2013
Posts: 4125
Location: Northern Virginia
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:54 pm
|
|
|
| BodaciousSpacePirate wrote: |
| zensunni wrote: | | Or did she ask him to draw HER boobs? In other words, should that be "my" not "me"? |
Maybe it was Talk Like a Pirate Day. "Draw me boobs, you scallywag!" |
This is making me think her book would make a really good film or direct anime adaptation. Something like Scum's Wish or Flower's of Evil. A lonely girl living with a broken family, reaching out to her mother's lovers for affection, stops going to school, etc.. this sounds very much like a pretty heartwrenching drama.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
John Thacker
Joined: 28 Oct 2013
Posts: 1009
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:57 pm
|
|
|
| AksaraKishou wrote: |
You can also change "draw" with "touch" or that "draw" might even be of the "draw your gun" kind. As in, once again, touch my boobs. |
No, that you cannot. It is definitely paint/draw a picture of boobs, and the verb used cannot share meanings with touch or draw your sword. The "draw" for draw your sword is 引く (hiku), a very versatile verb that is used for many meanings of draw in English, such as "draw attention," "draw a sword," "draw interest," "draw back," "draw a card," "draw up a plan," and also a few things we can't use draw for in English, like "catch a cold" and "play a stringed instrument" (though you can "draw back the bow of a fiddle or violin," which is why the same verb can be used in Japanese. As an increasingly complicated aside, note that while you do use arguably the same verb hiku to play a piano or guitar, when writing it you use a different kanji, 弾く.) However, while it has all those "draws," it cannot mean "draw a picture."
Most of the other silly suggestions in this thread are, however, possible interpretations of 私はその彼の一人に「おっぱいの絵を書け!」と命令される。 It could, I suppose, be about her boobs, though the translation given in the article here meant me, as in "draw (for) me a picture of boobs!" (Note the very rough imperative mood.)
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
DmonHiro
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:12 pm
|
|
|
|
What influenced her work? Guess it's going to be a cynical, depressing and angsty book then.
Yeah, kind of bitter about IBO.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
vonPeterhof
Joined: 10 Nov 2014
Posts: 729
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:27 pm
|
|
|
| John Thacker wrote: | | Most of the other silly suggestions in this thread are, however, possible interpretations of 私はその彼の一人に「おっぱいの絵を書け!」と命令される。 It could, I suppose, be about her boobs, though the translation given in the article here meant me, as in "draw (for) me a picture of boobs!" (Note the very rough imperative mood.) |
The "rough imperative mood" is pretty common in reported speech, even when the actual request was polite (although the exclamation mark does imply that it wasn't). What's more notable is that the actual sentence doesn't say that she was the one who told her mother's boyfriend to draw a picture of boobs; she was ordered to draw a picture of boobs by him.
As for the book, should be an interesting read. Fans and critics do love armchair psychoanalysing Okada's past traumas, so it's only fair that she gets a say on it too.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
John Thacker
Joined: 28 Oct 2013
Posts: 1009
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:52 pm
|
|
|
| vonPeterhof wrote: |
| John Thacker wrote: | | Most of the other silly suggestions in this thread are, however, possible interpretations of 私はその彼の一人に「おっぱいの絵を書け!」と命令される。 It could, I suppose, be about her boobs, though the translation given in the article here meant me, as in "draw (for) me a picture of boobs!" (Note the very rough imperative mood.) |
The "rough imperative mood" is pretty common in reported speech, even when the actual request was polite (although the exclamation mark does imply that it wasn't). What's more notable is that the actual sentence doesn't say that she was the one who told her mother's boyfriend to draw a picture of boobs; she was ordered to draw a picture of boobs by him.
As for the book, should be an interesting read. Fans and critics do love armchair psychoanalysing Okada's past traumas, so it's only fair that she gets a say on it too. |
Yes, you're absolutely right that she was order to draw a picture of boobs by him, and that's the notable part. I came back to this thread just to correct that; glad you mentioned it already.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
zrnzle500
Joined: 04 Oct 2014
Posts: 3768
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:16 pm
|
|
|
Her ordering him to draw boobs was weird, but the other way around is just creepy  . Hopefully if fulfilled it was done only in the most perfunctory manner.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
Lemonchest
Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Posts: 1771
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:32 pm
|
|
|
| zrnzle500 wrote: | Her ordering him to draw boobs was weird, but the other way around is just creepy . Hopefully if fulfilled it was done only in the most perfunctory manner. |
Draw me like one of your anime girls.
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
