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Whis-pur
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:00 am
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Really cool interview! I really love how he sticks up for the newbie animators, and after reading what he had to say about production time I kind of want to read more about how their process of animation works.
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KaiserNeko
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:08 am
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"The criticism we've received has been way too overblown."
"Way too overblown"!?
He openly admits to employing new talent on a veteran franchise and that their timetable is completely screwed up because of the system they're using. It doesn't sound overblown, it sounds entirely justified. Because he justified it. In the interview.
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Whis-pur
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:33 am
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KaiserNeko wrote: | "The criticism we've received has been way too overblown."
"Way too overblown"!?
He openly admits to employing new talent on a veteran franchise and that their timetable is completely screwed up because of the system they're using. It doesn't sound overblown, it sounds entirely justified. Because he justified it. In the interview. |
I'm going to take a shot and say this is sarcasm? But, what's wrong with putting new guys on a veteran show? And DBS isn't a veteran show, it's a veteran franchise. I think it's cool that they're putting newbies on popular shows, I mean who wants to learn their craft in the annals of the anime industry?
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KaiserNeko
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:41 am
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Whis-pur wrote: |
KaiserNeko wrote: | "The criticism we've received has been way too overblown."
"Way too overblown"!?
He openly admits to employing new talent on a veteran franchise and that their timetable is completely screwed up because of the system they're using. It doesn't sound overblown, it sounds entirely justified. Because he justified it. In the interview. |
I'm going to take a shot and say this is sarcasm? But, what's wrong with putting new guys on a veteran show? And DBS isn't a veteran show, it's a veteran franchise. I think it's cool that they're putting newbies on popular shows, I mean who wants to learn their craft in the annals of the anime industry? |
But then how are they going to get all defensive when people are looking for quality and instead find the work of new animators on a completely unsustainable timetable? The franchise deserves better than that.
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JulieYBM
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:43 am
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The problem here is that there is next to no time for the young key animators to be mentored very well and animation supervisors have no time to correct drawings. If directors are feeling the brunt of it then it is no surprise that so many good directors are leaving the industry. It is nice that Dragon Ball Super has managed to retain a few good directors, though. Satou Masanori has been improving, Hatano Morio directed Episode #6 and #14 and as of Episode #33 became the series director alongside the great Chioka Kimitoshi, too.
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BlackPoint.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:10 pm
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well newbie animators means also saving money for sure and they can use the excuse as the guy said that they are learning by the mistakes and will do better later, so yeh as a DB franchise it deserves better. But else the whole animation didn't really bother me much at the new DB-S i just see it as typical DB stuff yeh it could be better but well this days we see its all about bringing out as many as possible animes/episodes and save up as much as possible money while that so ofc the quality gonna drop. I think he said pretty good though that JPN needs a better work system and also as i say often they need too look outside abit more not just stuck up with jpn fans, well yeh thanks to the internet and the streaming sites it has gotten better, but there is still allot of places left where they can improve, because in the end more people brings more money so i dont see the point to clinging on to jpn fans only so much in this digital era.
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Whis-pur
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:24 pm
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Hm, I wonder how teaming up with Netflix will change this? Didn't netflix say they wanted to try and make their own anime? If that's true it could mean that everyone working on the project could have as much time as they like.
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Zhou-BR
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:10 pm
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I appreciate Hayashida's admission that the redone sequences from the first season of Dragon Ball Kai looked very jarring, and I wasn't aware that they were redone because of that flickering effect that stopped being used since the Pokémon seizure incident. However, the first season had two big advantages over the second one: no 16:9 cropping (at least in the BD release) and much better color corrections.
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thekingsdinner
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:53 pm
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Whis-pur wrote: | Really cool interview! I really love how he sticks up for the newbie animators, and after reading what he had to say about production time I kind of want to read more about how their process of animation works. |
I'm one of those people that thinks people are far too harsh against Dragon Ball Super. Newbie animators or not, I think it looks pretty well done for a show that's almost guaranteed to have a triple digit episode count.
Anyway, nice interview! Hayashida sounds like a very honest guy and I like that.
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Moli_Malone
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:05 pm
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Can be DBZ first season harmful to the eyes?
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Hameyadea
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:05 pm
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It's a Vicious Circle: to sustain the quality level of a project, one needs experienced people. But to gain experience, one needs to work on a project.
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theNightster
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:17 pm
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I wouldn't mind a Cell resurrection movie, it would make a pretty good excuse to make Gohan relevant again since he's the one who killed him.
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hanko14
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:32 pm
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i found it almost punny when he said , it takes so long to draw him every time. You have to calculate how he's going to move PERFECTLY
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Felis
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:47 pm
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We don't need another resurrection movie with Cell this time. I'd rather see new content/villains and not a rehash of previous fights/enemies.
Funimation can deny it all they want, but it is obvious they already have the Buu saga of DBZ Kai and have already dubbed it. I'm assuming Toei are the ones holding them up from releasing it. Probably want a TV deal, which means we'll be waiting at least another year for Toonami to catch up before the first DVD/Blu-ray set gets released. We better not have to wait for the Buu saga of Kai on TV to finish airing before we can get a release of Super. We'll be waiting 3-4 years for Super if thats the case.
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KH91
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:19 pm
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I said it once, I will say it again...FnF is a waste of a movie.
*Starts new DB project in 18 years*
Let's get newbies. People will forgive them if they screw up this goldmine.
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