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hikaru393
Posts: 525 Location: champlin MN |
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i picked up death note the japan version and it's smaller then american manga and the side isnt as stiff looking as american manga i thought they wanted american manga to be just like japan manga except for the letters of course.
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HitokiriShadow
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When people say they want it like it is in Japan, they mean they want it unflipped and uncut. Most people aren't asking the books (size, spines, and all) to be identical to the Japanese tankoubon. I think the paper quality is actually better in the U.S. than it is in Japan, but I'm not sure on that.
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Satanachia
 Posts: 143 Location: Canada |
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since we're talking about american manga. is the Gundam Seed Japanese version different from the American version? i wasnt too thrilled with the Del Rey series. lots of spelling mistakes and way to short. and the fluent use of "What the blazes" instead of "What the hell" kinda got annoying
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Hideyuki
Posts: 50 Location: Wisconsin |
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They also come with dust jackets (or atleast my OP and Bleach do).
Their stuff is smaller, and has 0 ads, which is nice because it means pretty much back to front manga, they really only list their other series on the back flap... |
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darkhunter
 Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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Wait, you actually problem with ads in the back of the book? The ad are place in the back of the book are not intrusive at all, so it's like not like getting in the way of your reading. After you get to the last page, you can simply close the book without viewing the ads. If it's place in the front or inbetween manga than that's a different story. To me, the ads are like trailer on Anime DVD, because it let reader know what else is available but if the reader/viewer does not wish to view them, that's their choice. It's good marketing strategy, especially since the U.S. Market isn't like Japanese's market when most people preview manga through anthology. I own several japanese manga and never really like the production quality on them. Smaller + Cheaper paper = doesn't better. It just mean Japanese manga are more disposable. |
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apple pro
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i originally was going to say i liked the american... but i think i'd go for the japanese way
the dust jackets being removeable would let me read it on the train without peepz knowing what i'm reading. ditto for the size. whatev, not a big deal to me. as long as the publisher can maintain consistent quality and output — i'm cool. |
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marie-antoinette
 Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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The only thing I have a problem with is that I would prefer they don't change the cover art. Because usually I like the Japanese better.
For example, in Alice 19th, the English covers are mostly grey...in Japan these areas are white (or a must lighter colour...I don't remember for sure off-hand, since I've only seen the Japanese editions a few times). Or there is the fun with Mars, which has most of the same pictures, but not on the same volumes 
This is actually one thing that makes me really excited about Fushigi Yuugi: Genbu Kaiden, because the covers are the same. A shame they didn't do that with the original Fushigi Yuugi series, because apparently the covers of Genbu are designed to be very similar to the covers of Suzaku/Seiryuu. And I like the ads, because it's a good way of hearing about other manga similar to the one I'm reading...I would never have known about series like Alice 19th or Imadoki, two of my favourites, as easily without it, since they were both advertised in Fushigi Yuugi, since they like to put ads for manga by the same mangaka. |
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Renaa-Chan
 Posts: 3 Location: south of nowhere...... |
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personally the japanese manga of any series is way better than the english version. For one I agree on the art, and how most of the stuff isnt censored so for the most part I agree with all of what all you guys are saying
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HitokiriShadow
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99.9% of the time, English manga isn't censored in any way (dialogue changes are a bit more common, but they generally aren't a big deal) other than, perhaps, some of the edges falling off due to different page dimentions or poor editing. @ marioc: What is with this "m@" stuff? |
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mistress_reebi
Posts: 735 Location: Canada |
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Some jokes with Japanese words work in the Japanese language, but not here due to translation. Also with space in panels and making sure the dialogue works in North America is a factor in why Japanese versions are somewhat different. For the most part they are about the same, it's like watching the dubbed version in anime.
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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I'm also curious about the size
even if you take out ads, they're ontl 2-5 pages and that doesn't explain why the japanese volumes are like 1/3-1/2 of the thickness.... I think it's just the paper thickness |
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GATSU
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Carl wrote a whole article up at http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22292.
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marioc
 Posts: 25 Location: The M@ Realm |
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A very good question. And in my opinion
there'e only one answer and that is manga in japan is the dominate animal. Here america is still trying to come too from the punch that manga delivered when it arrived here. don't worry though because soon all your going to see is manga. I don't know if you keep up with the industry,but like the dino's extinction is around the corner for comics. Although their trying, just being mainly popular in a few countries doesn't get it. Manga is something enjoyed around the world. And even american artist are going to have to start writing as well because most manga-ka draw and write. The level of artistic freedom has been rasied and artisticly manga covers every genre. american artist have yet to rise to the manga level. most american artist draw but don't write and in the industry anyone who's trying to get in or has already been published will tell you that just drawing isn't enough. artist and writer's are two of the highest paid positions in the industry and a publisher doesn't want to pay for the promotion and a writer; Inkers,colorist and illustrators come, but writers are hard to find. If you don't believe me go to george lucas's website. And try reading a starwars comic, sometimes you can find an artist or two who like working with extremely talented writer's. but they do it to become well known artist. P.S. The typo's are mistakes but I had a lot to say in little time. |
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Kagemusha
 Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
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marioc-Next time try doing some actual research into American comics before you declare "Manga is going to take over the world!"
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Nagisa
Moderator
 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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I love how skewed and uninformed this is. Yes, there was a big manga explosion a couple years ago, but lately it's kinda been plateauing. Much like the anime trend, fewer series are getting licensed and the massive flood of releases is slowing down somewhat due to market oversaturation and some companies (ADV, for example) overestimating manga's market power in this country. Manga is now a strong force in the comics markets outside of Japan, yes, but it isn't the dominating monster you seem to think it is. And believe it or not, the American and general Western comics industry is kinda sorta doing very well for itself. Marvel and DC—among many others—are not going anywhere anytime soon, because despite your highly ignorant take on the subject, Superman and Batman and Spiderman are still much much much more internationally recognized in the mainstream than Naruto and Son Goku and Luffy.
You say "manga covers every genre" like non-Japanese comics don't. Because clearly the likes of Maus and Persopolis and Pyongyang are all about superpowered action. Uh-uh, exactly. 
Besides, it's not like manga doesn't tend to confine itself to formulaic genres of its own. For every unique Cromartie or Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou to come along, there are easily 20 generic high school romance or young shounen fighting/adventure titles, just like Western comics have about 20 superhero yarns to every Sin City. You think manga's just the bee's knees. Peachy keen. But to go around blindly proclaiming the death of Western comic art with obviously ZERO research or sufficient knowledge on anything involved, basing it solely on said fact that you just so happen to think manga is the bee's knees, is ridiculous. Next time do please be more careful with your extremely uninformed generalizations. |
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