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Anime Quote Guessing Game Round 7~

...These do count for points but do not have to be guessed, so be sure to catch them before they zip away!...

Point of clarification. In the minigame rules you said (emphasis mine)...

Key wrote:

...These do count for points but do not have to be guessed, so be sure to catch them before they zip away!...

That's a significant change to the rules. Did you leave out the word "not". Either way, it wasn't how the previous two rounds worked so I'll tally the scores for those rounds under the old rules.

Key, the rules look good! My only comment is that I think googling a quote should be expressly against the rules so that we don't have to go through a similar thing as what happened in the Character game.

I believe the only substantive change I made was specifically adding into the rules that the source material has to be in play for at least a week before a quote could be used from it. I have argued for years that this should be a rule, as it's always irritated me when quotes came up from episodes that were only a day or two old. If people have a real problem with that being there, though, then we can discuss it.

4. [...] Specifying whether the quote is from subbed or dubbed material is required; posting both subbed and dubbed versions of a quote where they are substantively different is encouraged but not required.

3b. [...] If you find this impossible or, heaven forbid, the audience to a quote is a spoiler, reply with two spoiler tags separated by a double line break, just like this:

[...]

This unique kind of answer will let those who haven't seen the show in the first spoiler NOT to read the second, while allowing others, namely the judge, to check it at their leisure.

I object to the following changes:

new rules wrote:

4. [...] Specifying whether the quote is from subbed or dubbed material is required; posting both subbed and dubbed versions of a quote where they are substantively different is encouraged but not required.

1. I don't think it makes sense to require a user to disclose the fact that the anime has been dubbed if the dub and sub are substantively the same, and the user chooses to post the dub version.

It could alert others that the version posted is different than the version he may have read, but consider this: There are many anime that has multiple official subs--Crunchyroll, Nico, Funi, Hulu, DVD, etc--, and certain users outside of USA may have to use fansubs, of which there are probably multiple versions. A guesser should have the possibility of different renderings in mind regardless.

So, where the dub and sub are essentially the same, it doesn't make sense to force the user to choose between disclosing that the source has a dub or using the sub version.

(This one isn't actually a change, but it's related) If the dub and sub version are substantially different (some times to the point of being different altogether), then I'm not sure telling people it's from the dub/sub initially is very helpful. I can see why the user isn't required to give both versions though (for shows like Pokemon, it'd be a nightmare to track down a sub version).

old rules wrote:

3b. [...] If you find this impossible or, heaven forbid, the audience to a quote is a spoiler, reply with two spoiler tags separated by a double line break, just like this: [...] This unique kind of answer will let those who haven't seen the show in the first spoiler NOT to read the second, while allowing others, namely the judge, to check it at their leisure.

2. This rule has been left out of the new rules. I think the quote game is an excellent place to entice people to watch new series. As such, if we allow people to give answer that are major spoilers to the series without proper labeling, then it would discourage people from watching new anime by springing spoilers on them.

I'm noting the following changes, though I don't necessarily object to them:

1. Rule 6, dealing with when turns expire: Under the old rules, when the 48 hours are up, then there is a grace period extending to 24 hours from the time of the last outstanding guess for the person who posted the quote to confirm the outstanding answer(s). This provision has been eliminated.

2. Rule 12, dealing with forfeiting turns, shortened the grace period in which a correct guesser can post his quote to 24 hours after confirmation. It used to be 48 hours.

I'm guessing Key wants to speed up the game.

Boomerang Flash wrote:

Rule 12, dealing with forfeiting turns, shortened the grace period in which a correct guesser can post his quote to 24 hours after confirmation. It used to be 48 hours. I'm guessing Key wants to speed up the game.

Actually, I just slipped on typing this up, but I would be strongly in favor of making this the new standard. Making a guess should imply that you're paying attention to see if your guess is confirmed or not, and if you're too busy to be getting a new quote up within 24 hours then you should be passing anyway.

Honestly, I always thought that that identifying whether something's from a dub or sub was the rule and a lot of people were just ignoring it. Would you prefer the rule instead read something like, "Whether a quote is from an official subbed or dubbed version must be identified in cases where one isn't available or the two versions are substantively different?"

As another thought on this issue, I do feel that a quote should be specifically designated as being from a fansub if such is the case, as those are known to sometimes vary widely in wording between different production groups.