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Macross TV vs. Robotech




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wanderer



Joined: 09 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:17 pm Reply with quote
I was wondering if Animeigo's subbed version of Macross (that is going to be discontinued) is the same, content-wise, as ADV's dubbed Robotech-Macross Saga-Complete Collection. I haven't watched either yet, but I'm aware that Robotech was a compilation of this and two other series. We already own the entire Robotech dvd collection so I was wondering if its worth it to buy Macross before its discontinued.

I'd appreciate it if some of you could tell me more about Macross as a separate entity, but also in comparison to how it was used in Robotech (or direct me to an apropriate existing thread Smile ). I checked out the encyclopedia and did a search of the forum but there are so many series, movies, and OVAs with the keyword 'Robotech' and/or 'Macross'...I was getting a little confused.

Thanks!
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kusanagi-sama



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:30 pm Reply with quote
Robotech is completely different storyline wise because they had to take Macross, Moespedia and Southern Cross and make it one series to fit American TV. Macross TV is much better in any way.
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Steve Berry



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:28 pm Reply with quote
Well, let me see if I can give you a bit more detail about the differences between Robotech and Macross.

I too love Macross, like the last person to post, and think it better than Robotech, but in truth, IMO, the 1st section in Robotech (with Rick and Lisa) is a pretty close retelling of the events in Macross. Plot wise, they are pretty much the same.

Stuff was edited out for the Robotech show, of course, but not a lot, frankly, 2 minutes here, a minute there, that sort of stuff. Minmei has a shower scene (which is actually kinda funny). The edits add up over the 36 eps, they make a difference as sometimes character developing moments had to be cut, like a more vivid portrayal of the death spoiler[of Ben], but its not a HUGE deal to me. I'm glad the stuff was included, its one more reason I like the Macross set, but not one of THE deciding factors. Still, it's cool to have the complete, honest to god real show.

The biggest difference for me, as a viewer, was that 1) the Japanese voice acting is worlds better in Macross, 2) Minmei's music is A LOT better (still Jpop, but some of the tunes are really very good, and succeed as good music that has aged well), and 3) the digital remastering is wonderful, and visually the show is far far brighter,colorful, and sharper (although I guess if you've gotten the newer, remastered Robotech DVDs, then that wouldn't matter as much). Oh, and 4) the voice over is gone, except for right at the beginning of the episode, and at the preview-- this helps more than one might think, as the audience isnt' continually told what to think, and the story is allowed to unfold for itself.

The BGM is also much more ... emotional, and less action based. Also, many times the Japanese version simply allows silence to work its magic. The music and the silences add to scenes that I thought were just OK before. As an example, the end of the Mars Base attack becomes much more emotionally engaging in the Japanese version-- both because of the music, the appropriate silences, and the lack of the, IMO, obnoxious narrator guy.

Those are the biggest differences to me. They are subtle, but they absolutely make the show better. Much better, IMO. The show comes off feeling more mature, a little deeper. If you're a fan of Macross, as it would seem, since you own the whole Robotech collection, it's worth buying these. They are some of my most prized anime DVDs in my entire collection.

Also, you can get a lot of them for half price (legit DVDs) on Half.com and Amazon.

Anyone else have any thoughts??
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kusanagi-sama



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:41 pm Reply with quote
The Robotech Remastered DVD's still suffer from horrible video quality. They are grainy, and suffer the jaggies in some scenes due to them not having the same size film source.
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dnewhous



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:52 am Reply with quote
Wasn't there a scene in Macross that was cut out where Rick/Minmei Get in On/Bang a Gong?
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MasterFuu



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:38 am Reply with quote
dnewhous wrote:
Wasn't there a scene in Macross that was cut out where Rick/Minmei Get in On/Bang a Gong?


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Steve Berry



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:47 pm Reply with quote
:Laughing:

I don't remember such a scene from Macross. hahahahaha..... There is the shower scene, which has some of Minmei nude (from the back mostly, as I remember).... but as for them doing the nasty.....:Laughing: no, I'm afraid that wasn't in the uncut version.

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kusanagi-sama



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:46 pm Reply with quote
There was never any sex scene in Macross or Robotech. Lynn Minmei wasn't even visibly nude in the TV series.

Do You Remember Love does show her naked in the shower however, no sex scene there either, just a really long kiss before they are found, and they are both clothed, and floating.
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