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Group D-17

Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi
vs.
William Jones & Emma from Victorian Romance Emma

Ah, this one is a no-brainer for me...Aoi & Kaoru.

Group D-18

Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
vs.
Misuzu Kamio & Yukito Kunisaki from Air

I think my fangirl side is going to run rampant in this group...Roy & Maes.


Group D-19

Yusuke Urameshi & Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho
vs.
Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana

This one is difficult, just a bit, because I've only seen one of these two series and got disgusted with it and quit after a while but I'm going to vote due to what others have said...Nana x2.

Group D-20

Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana
vs.
San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke

I've never seen Shana and it's been a while since I've seen PM but I'm going to go with San & Ashitaka due to the guide.


Group D-21

Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
vs.
Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade

Like anyone has to ask here: Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask
Vote Change: No, never, not a chance in you-know-where!


Group D-22

Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die
vs.
Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin

Hmm...both are strong but I'm going to go with Yomiko & Nancy.

Group D-23

Ginji Amano & Ban Mido from GetBackers
vs.
Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl

I like both of these, I really do but I'm going to have to go with Jose & Henrietta.

Group D-24

Yukino Miyazawa & Souichiro Arima from His & Her Circumstances (Kare Kano)
vs.
Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

I'm a bit wishy-washy on this one but Haruhi & Kyon get my vote because 1) I've seen the series and 2) he keeps her somewhat grounded.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:24 am Reply with quote
The new brackets with the Round 2 Group C results has been posted at: http://home.comcast.net/~unirizer2/

Mini-game scores have also been updated.

Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:29 am Reply with quote
On the one hand, I'm disappointed that Kazuki and Juubei lost. On the other hand, two points! Millie and Meryl beating Rock and Revy, though, no silver lining to that cloud.

Group D-17
Aoi Sakuraba and Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi vs.
William and Emma from Victorian Romance Emma
Voting for: Aoi & Kaoru
Reason: I read the manga during round D1, and I might have even voted for them over Sana and Akito if I'd done it sooner. After forgetting who I voted for and then reading through the votes from this round again, Abunai's reasoning tipped the scales the other way for me.
Possibility for change: Changed

Group D-18
Roy Mustang and Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist vs.
Misuzu Kamio and Yukito Kunisaki from Air
Voting for: Misuzu & Yukito
Reason: Romantic over best buds.
Possibility for change: Yes

Group D-19
Yusuke Urameshi and Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho vs.
Nana Komatsu and Nana Ozaki from Nana
Voting for: Nana & Nana
Reason: Like I mentioned previous round, I've only seen one episode of Nana, but the girls' relationship left an immediate impression.
Possibility for change: Slim. I haven't seen Yu Yu Hakusho.

Group D-20
Yuuji Sakai and Shana from Shakugan no Shana vs.
San & Ashitake from Princess Mononoke
Voting for: San & Ashitake
Reason: So I haven't seen Princess Mononoke; this is more a vote against Yuuji and Shana. Yuuji is too oblivious to Shana's feelings towards him (in general, not just after she developed romantic feelings), and Shana is too much a typical tsundere. It's especially annoying that she essentially regresses from the end of the first season to the start of the second, and a large chunk of the second season had no real development for the two of them.
Possibility for change: Slim

Group D-21
Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon vs.
Masane and Rihoko from Witchblade
Voting for: Masane & Rihoko
Reason: It has a better rating.
Possibility for change: Yes. Haven't seen either.

Group D-22
Yomiko and Nancy from Read or Die vs.
Kenshin and Kaoru from Rurouni Kenshin
Voting for: Kaoru & Kenshin
Reason: I've seen ROD and not Kenshin, but the guide leaves me leaning towards the latter.
Possibility for change: Slim.

Group D-23
Ban Midou and Ginji Amano from Getbackers vs.
Henrietta and Jose from Gunslinger Girl
Voting for: Ban & Ginji
Reason: The "s" in Get Backers means you're never alone.
Possibility for change: Slim. Only seen about 4 episodes of Gunslinger Girl.

Group D-24
Souichi Arima and Yukino Miyazawa from Kare Kano vs.
Kyon and Haruhi from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Voting for: Souichi & Yukino
Reason: About the only way in which Haruhi and Kyon exceed Souichi and Yukino is the absurdity of their adventures, and that's not high on my list of what makes a good duo. I'll probably make a whole post elaborating this argument later.
Possibility for change: No


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Group D-17

Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi
vs.
William Jones & Emma from Victorian Romance Emma

William Jones & Emma from Victorian Romance Emma
It is the easiest choice in the whole tournament, William and Emma have a beautifully developed relationship whereas IMO Aoi is an annoying yamato nadeshiko.

Group D-18

Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
vs.
Misuzu Kamio & Yukito Kunisaki from Air

Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
Easy, Misuzu's sweet voice makes Air unwatchable for me.

Group D-19

Yusuke Urameshi & Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho
vs.
Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana

Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana
I'm not familiar with Yu Yu Hakusho but Hachiko&Nana have a strong bond.

Group D-20

Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana
vs.
San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke

San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke
Yuji is an idiot and Shana was interesting only at the beginning when she fell in love with Yuji she became not so interesting.

Group D-21

Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
vs.
Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade

Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
I'm not familiar with Witchblade

Group D-22

Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die
vs.
Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin

Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die
I prefer Kenshin&Tomoe


Group D-23

Ginji Amano & Ban Mido from GetBackers
vs.
Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl

Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl
I'm not familiar with GetBackers

Group D-24

Yukino Miyazawa & Souichiro Arima from His & Her Circumstances (Kare Kano)
vs.
Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
I like Kyon & Haruhi more than Yukino&Arima. The interaction between Kyon & Haruhi made The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya more enjoyable for me.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:09 am Reply with quote
Zallis matched me in all eight categories in group C. I'm really glad that I wasn't the only one who voted for Sora and Layla.

Group D-17

Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi
vs.
William Jones & Emma from Victorian Romance Emma

Voting for Aoi and Kaoru

I'm not a big fan of the series and I really am not a big fan of Aoi type girls (Tina is my favorite and has much more in common with me) but this couple is definitely one that has overcome great odds. Both sides are absolutely in love with the other which is rare in many of these other couples where one person is "pursuing" the other. I'm eagerly looking forward to the Emma release which is approaching.

Group D-18

Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
vs.
Misuzu Kamio & Yukito Kunisaki from Air

Voting for Roy and Maes

This one is a tough call. Roy and Maes' relationship remind me more of some of my roommates since we have lived with each other and worked on films with each other for many years. It is this professional respect mixed with the personal which work well. Although we can go out and have fun together we also know that we have each others back in a pinch. The Air couple seemed a bit forced in the modern story arc and wouldn't have worked for me at all if it were not for the flashback stuff. Misuzu also just comes across as a helpless little child, but then again I suppose that is the point of moe. I found it a bit annoying.

Group D-19

Yusuke Urameshi & Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho
vs.
Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana

Voting for Nana

I really hope that Viz will release this series that I hear so much about. Not very fond of the Yu Yu couple so this is one I can go either way.

Group D-20

Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana
vs.
San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke

Voting for Shana and Yuji

I still think that Alastor and Shana are a better duo. I just really don't care for Yuji (my favorite SHana episodes are the flashback episodes without Yuji) but I like Shana enough to vote for them as a duo. Much like the Howl couple the Mononoke couple feel like another generic Miyazaki couple. They are both just too perfect and noble and lack any distinguishing quirks.

Group D-21

Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
vs.
Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade

Voting for Rico and Masane

I see a strong argument for Sailor Moon (a show I'm not fond of) and would vote for them if they were matched with a weaker couple. Masane and Rico are really what made Witchblade so good for me. I love the whole irresponsible parent and child combo which reminded me of Monica from Heat Guy J. This definitely one of the most adorable couples.

Group D-22

Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die
vs.
Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin

Voting for Yomiko and Nancy

Even though I nominated Kaoru and Kenshin during the last round of names (I'm still surprised that they were forgotten) I have to vote for the ROD girls. These two have really gone through hell and back with each other. I love how Yomiko is so compassionate towards Nancy. The relationship which occurs after the OVA in the television series is what cements it for me. I really wish I could vote for both these couples since they both work on so many levels to the point that they are for all practical purposes family.

Group D-23

Ginji Amano & Ban Mido from GetBackers
vs.
Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl

Voting for the GetBackers

I'm still not convinced that the bond between Jose and Henrietta is that strong. Jose still comes across as Henrietta's handler more than a real father or brother. Just because he isn't as mean as the other handlers doesn't convince me that they share a strong bond. Ginji and Ban have such opposite personalities yet work so well together. I also like how Ginji went through such a profound change after meeting and teaming up with Ban.

Group D-24

Yukino Miyazawa & Souichiro Arima from His & Her Circumstances (Kare Kano)
vs.
Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

Voting for Haruhi and Kyon.

I really like the His and Her couple but they have the misfortune of being teamed up with what might be the strongest couple in group D. I'm not even that big of a Haruhi fan compared to many, but think a good amount of this series hinges on this duo.

These tournaments are a great way in seeing what others see and like in anime. You can see who vote similar (or opposite) to you and check out their public anime list.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:45 am Reply with quote
Steel Angel wrote:
Aromatic Grass wrote:

Oh, the irony. Rolling Eyes


Looks like I'm not the only one who caught that. Smile
Just saying...

For starters I defended many other qualities with that couple. Second, it was not a matter of just the longevity, which is all Jesse and James have IMO. The longevity of that couple only served to highlight their other elements. That should clarify that. Third, I am not going to respond again on the matter (I only did here to clarify my post) as we were warned about taking shots/making rude comments towards people. But you 2 can feel free to continue if you want a certain someone to come back. I for one don't so I'm shutting my mouth now.

Group D

Group D-17
Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi

Reason: Easy choice here. Aoi and Kaoru simply cannot be separated. They support each other endlessly even when they cannot publicly show their love. They would walk through hell for each other and are both willing to forsake their families and all that they are just to be together. There's not much any other couple could do to measure up to that.


Group D-18
Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist

Reason: Misuzu & Yukito are cute and good together as a duo but they simply don't measure up to Roy and Maes. They've been close friends for years and support each other without question.


Group D-19
Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana

Reason: Another easy one. Yusuke and Keiko are cute but again this is another match up where they just are middle weights trying to take down a heavy weight. It doesn't work. Nana and Nana simply have them outclassed.

Group D-20
Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana

Reason: Honestly I didn't expect or think either couple hand it to make it this far with who they went up against. I do think though that Shana and Yuji come off as a more sincere duo with real friendship. I could never buy the whole romantic aspect in Mononoke as it, and San & Ashitaka's friendship seem rushed and a bit hollow. I might change my mind here.

Group D-21
Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade

Sorry Lydia but I gotta vote for Masane and Rihoko. I mean Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask are a couple, devoted to each other, and work great togther. The problem is it just doesn't stack up against the mother/daughter love between Rihoko and Masane. Watching spoiler[them and Takayama together at the end of vol 5 was heart warming. Plus how Rihoko deals with the fact that Masane will die and stays strong. Especially at the scene in vol 6 when she smiles and says goodbye to Masane as she heads out to face all the I-weapons.] Suffice to say their bonds are some of the most genuine and heart felt I've seen in any anime show. Hell, I'd vote for them over Ban and Ginji if I had to. That should say something coming from me. Usagi/Serena is too flighty and wishy washy at times with her feelings and that is what puts Rihoko and Masane over her I feel. spoiler[Masane would and does sacrifice everything to protect Rihoko.]

Group D-22
Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin

Reason: Tough one for me here. Yomiko and Nancy become true and loyal friends no doubt. One might say Yomiko helped change Nancy into a better person. The thing is the same can be said about Kenshin and Kaoru. Except Kaoru opened Kenshin up and changed him more deeply I think. She accepted him and his troubled past and got him to open up and believe in others and love again. I have to support them for that. Plus while the Reflection OVA was crap for the most part the end spoiler[where Kenshin dies in her arms and remembers who she is after losing his memory is just tear jerker city.]

Group D-23
Ginji Amano & Ban Mido from GetBackers

Reason: Jose treats Henrietta like a real person and not a tool of destruction. She loves him like a true older brother. Each would do anything for the other. The thing is I think this is another case where the opposition holds all the same qualities but to a greater degree. Ban and Ginji literally changed the other and complete the other. This isn't just a friendship, this is a bond where the other completes the other. They strengthen the other and are stronger because of the other's friendship. Both even say as much countless times through out the manga and anime. They simply support the other without question and regard each other as the real strength behind their power and determination. And as mentioned already, the S in Getbackers means you're never alone.

Group D-24
Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

Reason: I honestly don't care much for either show. I've seen Kare Kano and some of Haruhi Suzumiya and don't think either duo is too terribly strong. I would just flip a coin on this one but someone supported me earlier and I know they like Haruhi a lot. So I'm supporting them, since I am indifferent about which ever couple moves on, as thanks for the support towards a certain retrieval team.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:29 am Reply with quote
Randall Miyashiro wrote:
These tournaments are a great way in seeing what others see and like in anime. You can see who vote similar (or opposite) to you and check out their public anime list.


Psycho, you prove my case once again. I think it is funny how we both struggled at D-22 which is the only one we voted differently. The Reflection OAV is almost enough for me to swing to Kenshin. I think it would push me over if the author acknowledged it as canon and this was the accepted end to Kenshin and Kaoru's legacy.

This does bring up a reoccurring issue with works that have multiple series. I most definitely would vote for the Kenshin duo if the ROD pair was based solely on the OAV. This also applies to Shana (who I still voted for) since there are those who say that their bond is much stronger in the second series which has yet to be released in the States. This was also a big part of the fierce debating for the Ah My Goddess duo since there is not only the OAV and Movie, but the series, second series, mini Goddess, manga etc. I also think that the Usagi and Mamoru duo also goes through some maturing over the series and can only imagine what is in store for Kyon and Haruhi.
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Randall Miyashiro wrote:

Psycho, you prove my case once again. I think it is funny how we both struggled at D-22 which is the only one we voted differently. The Reflection OAV is almost enough for me to swing to Kenshin. I think it would push me over if the author acknowledged it as canon and this was the accepted end to Kenshin and Kaoru's legacy.

This does bring up a reoccurring issue with works that have multiple series. I most definitely would vote for the Kenshin duo if the ROD pair was based solely on the OAV. This also applies to Shana (who I still voted for) since there are those who say that their bond is much stronger in the second series which has yet to be released in the States. This was also a big part of the fierce debating for the Ah My Goddess duo since there is not only the OAV and Movie, but the series, second series, mini Goddess, manga etc. I also think that the Usagi and Mamoru duo also goes through some maturing over the series and can only imagine what is in store for Kyon and Haruhi.


Glad I could be of service to you lol. I do fully admit that if one just saw the ROD Ova they would miss out on a lot between Nancy and Yomiko. I was starting to worry in the tv series if they'd ever get to bringing them up again. Thankfully they did. I also agree that the author not accepting it as canon is a shame. I mean it was a bittersweet but fitting end for the series. I was regretting buying the OVA but that last scene alone is worth it for me. I suppose that's what pushed me over the edge to vote for Kenshin. Because through that final scene I have some sort of real closure regarding the series. I mean that's the common plague in anime is it not? The typical anime ending heh. Reflections certainly did not follow that formula and by giving me that true ending got my vote here for the series. Honestly I wish the D-22 pairs each faced off against one of the D-24 pairs. That way both ROD and Kenshin could move on heh.

I also fully agree that the multiple works issue has swayed many votes one way or another. By having more material some couples have been able to show their true strengths. I think OMG certainly benefits there. Some shows honestly don't have enough time to flesh out a duo when compared to an opponent with 2-3 times the material pushing them on. I also personally have seen the extra material swing votes the other direction and cause a duo to lose a match. I mean personally for me I suppose I'm pissed that Jesse and James moved on because I am so freaking tired of hearing them and that damn catchphrase over and over and over again. They aren't that strong of a true duo IMO, but even if they were I'd vote them out on sheer annoyance at this part. I mean if I have to hear "prepare for trouble" one more time I'm going postal.
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Wow, an entire tournament just to find out who people think is the best duo team in anime?

Hmmm.

Half of these anime I haven't seen. So, if giving a reason, can I just say "because I actually know them more"?

D-17: Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi. Don't ask, I just read the write-up on the duos.

D-18: Misuzu Kamio & Yukito Kunisaki from Air. FMA is way to over-rated, and from the little Air I've seen, it seems to be quite a beautiful story, also starts to become very emotional.

D-19: Yusuke Urameshi & Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho. From the reviews of NANA, I probably would vote the other way if I've actually seen it, but hey, the comic moments between Yusuke and Keiko, which hint at the crushes they have on each other, and Yusuke's "life is boring" attitude actually make a shonen I enjoy for once.

D-20: San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke. Miyazaki was my first real venture into anime, and the first experience in the anime world (if you don't count when I was seven and people were saying "OMG Pokemon is cool").

D-21: Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade. I haven't seen Witchblade but I'm not into the shojo like Sailor Moon, which I consider cheesy.

D-22: Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die. ZOMG my first actual anime purchase. That I bought because I liked.

D-23: Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl. Love psychological thrillers. Love girls-with-guns. Love GG.

D-24: Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. Humor me. Only the Kyon side. SH was funny for a while, then it became ridiculous. I agree with pretty much everything Kyon says if I was in his shoes.
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Group D-17

Voting for: Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi
Reasons: Because the first ten minutes of Emma bored me enough to stop watching.

Group D-18

Voting for: Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
Reasons: The guide doesn't make the other one sound very interesting to me, and while I've only seen these two a bit, they were definitely fun/memorable bits.

Group D-19

Voting for: Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana
Reasons: Because this is my favourite duo left in the tournament. They have a complex relationship that definitely has some unhealthy tendencies to it (spoiler[Nana can be quite possessive of Hachi at times, taking the pet metaphor a bit too far]) but it comes from the fact that despite their differences they have a very deep bond. I want to meet someone with the same name as me on a train to Tokyo too.

Group D-20

Voting for: Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana
Reasons: Hatred of Princess Mononoke.


Group D-21

Voting for: Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
Reasons: The other duo doesn't sound overly strong to me and these two are cute, and even though I don't find them to be the strongest Sailor Moon duo they are strong enough to be in round 3.


Group D-22

Voting for: Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin
Reasons: I haven't seen any of Kenshin, but these two sound like they are fun. Maybe a bit cliched, but still better than what I remember of the ROD duo.

Group D-23

Voting for: Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl
Reasons: From what I've seen of Getbackers, I think these two have the deeper bond.

Group D-24

Voting for: Yukino Miyazawa & Souichiro Arima from His & Her Circumstances (Kare Kano)
Reasons: Because this is a series I've wanted to check out for awhile and they sound interesting. And because Melancholy had the exact same effect on me as Emma did.[/spoiler]
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Group D-17

Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi
vs.
William Jones & Emma from Victorian Romance Emma

This one is difficult for me in that I am looking forward to seeing Emma when it gets here, and the write up is decent, but I am familiar with Aoi and Kaoru from Ai Yori Aoshi and they are a good choice too. Watching them think of each other at every step of the way and having such unwavering love for each other means they get my vote.

Group D-18

Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
vs.
Misuzu Kamio & Yukito Kunisaki from Air

Neither of these seems like a better choice than the other to me, I have only seen Maes and Roy from Fullmetal Alchemist, so for that reason they get my vote.

Group D-19

Yusuke Urameshi & Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho
vs.
Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana

This one is a breeze, the Nana's are an easy choice in their relationship where they have much more interaction with each other than the Yu Yu pair.

Group D-20

Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana
vs.
San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke

Blahhh...I guess I will vote for Shana and Yuji from Shakugan No Shana, althought I don't think they made a particularly strong duo, I felt less that way about San and Ashitaka.

Group D-21

Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
vs.
Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade

Despite not seeing Sailor Moon and having heard really great things about them, I still have to vote for Masane and Rico from Witchblade. When Masane spoiler[didn't have Rico around she thought so little of her own life, it was clear she did indeed live for Rico], and I think them apart isn't as strong as them together.


Group D-22

Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die
vs.
Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin

I think I will vote for Kenshin and Kaoru from Rurouni Kenshin as I have more of a feel of them being more supportive of each other then the ROD pair.

Group D-23

Ginji Amano & Ban Mido from GetBackers
vs.
Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl

I will stick with the Getbackers duo and vote Ban and Genji here as the relationship was more eavenly matched verses the other relationship where a child of course has certain feelings for her caregiver with no good reason often for them, even when they aren't always thinking of her best interest...or at least protecting her more than I think Jose did for Henrietta.

Group D-24

Yukino Miyazawa & Souichiro Arima from His & Her Circumstances (Kare Kano)
vs.
Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya[/quote]

Wow, I can't believe the MOHS pair is getting more love already than the better choice which is of course Yukino and Souichiro from His and Her Circumstances. (Randall, I really thought they'd get your vote as well for some reason...) They share a common bond right off the bat in playing parts they really aren't and therefore are not able to share their true selves with those around them for fear of rejection. When they find each other and realize they can share their real selves with each other on that intimate level and not worry, and are simply free to love the other for who they are, it forms a very strong bond that I don't think can be easily beaten by any situation that comes up in their lives. Watching them grow up, together, and support each other is a joy to see unfold. Seeing them go through feelings that I think most people have had at one time or another makes them easy to connect with, whereas...

Kyon and Haruhi have a relationship of weirdness brought on by cosmic shenanigans. Would they have had a relationship without all the bizarre situations? They don't seem particularly drawn to each other with out being forced together.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:35 pm Reply with quote
Why are people voting for Kyon and Haruhi in this matchup? It looks like the reason is because they are entertaining (except in psycho's case, who's voting that way as a favor to someone).

In what way are Kyon and Haruhi a strong duo? Romanticly? No. Consider the aftermath of the kiss. Haruhi brushes it off as a nightmare. Kyon gets furious whenever Itsuki brings it up. They both act as if it were on the same level as eating dirt. Then they go on a date that you would never get either of them to admit was a date (the club activity were everyone else was busy). On this notadate, Kyon shows up an hour early so he can stick it to Haruhi by making her pay for lunch. [sarcasm] Aw, how sweet. [/sarcasm] Are the two of them still in kindergarden, where affection is displayed by tormenting the one you have a crush on?

So are they friends then? Kind of. In the sense that Haruhi will talk at Kyon; an honor denied to most rank and file humans. She doesn't listen to him though; not when she can help it, at least. She repeatedly spites him, while Itsuki is often showered with praise for playing along with her whims, and Mikuru is possibly more frequent an attraction for her attention. She forces him to do most of the menial work while she enjoys the fruits of his labor.

So that leaves comedy team. That they have in spades. So are you really going to vote for witty sarcasm and an unapolagetically egotistical child over a couple who are able to forsake the vain and petty facades they built to protect themselves from the world after the meet each other and fall in love.
Scroll up just a little and read bonbons' reasons for voting for Yukino and Souichiro. Compare that to the arguments for Haruhi and Kyon, and the best you'll get is that H&K make the series interesting. People are voting for Haruhi and Kyon because Souichiro and Yukino aren't the funniest characters in their series.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:53 pm Reply with quote
If I could I would switch my vote Dorcas as I do agree. However, as you pointed out it I am doing this as a favor for someone. Someone went out of their way to vote for my favorite retrieval team so I owe them. It's only fair IMO that I do the same for them as they did for me. Sorry Dorcas. Sad

I would also add for those voting, or thinking about voting, against Masane and Rihoko simply because of the nature of the show (being a bit fanservice heavy) to think again. For starters the latter half of the show tones down the fanservice a good amount. Second, I put it to anyone to show me 2-3 examples of such a motherly bond in an anime. I mean the true heart of Witchblade is not the action nor the explosions or fanservice. The heart of the show are the bonds between mother and daughter with Rihoko and Masane. Masane fights as the Witchblade for Rihoko. She does it to make a life for her and to protect her. Once it's revealed spoiler[that she's actually Reina's biological daughter it's clear that Masane is just a temporary host for the Witchblade until Rihoko comes of an age to inherit it as her mom was the previous wielder. Masane will do anything and fights as the Witchblade to prevent it from choosing Rihoko as a host. She vows to take it with her and not let it take over Rihoko. In the end she gives her life, taking the Witchblade with her, for Rihoko and Takayama and to save Tokyo. Not to mention Rihoko comes to terms with this and understands why Masane sacrifices herself.]

edit---dang it half on my original post got lost when I posted. I forgot to copy the other half and didn't notice. I'll redo it later if needed.


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Murasakisuishou



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:09 pm Reply with quote
Group D-17

Aoi Sakuraba & Kaoru Hanabishi from Ai Yori Aoshi
vs.
William Jones & Emma from Victorian Romance Emma

Voting for: Aoi Sakuraba and Kaoru Hanabishi

Based on the guide.

Group D-18

Roy Mustang & Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist
vs.
Misuzu Kamio & Yukito Kunisaki from Air

Voting for: Misuzu Kamio and Yukito Kunisaki

I'm still sore over the fact that Roy and Maes managed to get into this tournament and not Roy and Riza, to be honest. Plus, ultimately I think Yukito and Misuzu did more for each other than Roy and Maes, who were just war buddies. It's like saying that Aramaki and Kubota from GitS: SAC are a duo.


Group D-19

Yusuke Urameshi & Keiko Yukimura from Yu Yu Hakusho
vs.
Nana “Hachiko” Komatsu & Nana Ozaki from Nana

Voting for: The Nanas

They're one of the most convincing friendships I've seen in anime in a long while. Their story is so powerful that you don't just want to know what's going to happen next; you want to know what Nana and Hachi will do next.


Group D-20

Shana & Yuji Sakai from Shakugan no Shana
vs.
San & Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke

Voting for: Shana and Yuji Sakai

Not a big fan of either, but I *really* didn't like San and Ashitaka, plus I don't really think they qualify as a duo, so Shana and Yuji it is.


Group D-21

Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon
vs.
Rihoko “Rico” & Masane Amaha from Witchblade

Voting for: Rihoko and Masane Amaha

I'm a sucker for mother/child relationships, and there aren't nearly enough of them in action series.


Group D-22

Yomiko Readman & Nancy Makuhari from Read or Die
vs.
Kaoru Kamiya & Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin

Voting for: Kaoru Kamiya and Kenshin Himura

Based on the guide, although I'm fairly neutral on this one.

Group D-23

Ginji Amano & Ban Mido from GetBackers
vs.
Jose & Henrietta from Gunslinger Girl

Voting for: Ginji Amano and Ban Mido

Because GetBackers is the series I'm more familiar with, although Henrietta and Jose seem to have one of those awesome twisted relationships that I love so much. I dunno, I might change my vote.


Group D-24

Yukino Miyazawa & Souichiro Arima from His & Her Circumstances (Kare Kano)
vs.
Kyon & Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

Voting for: Kyon and Haruhi Suzumiya

I thought this over quite a bit, but ultimately I think I'm gonna have to go with Kyon and Haruhi here. They're a perfectly matched set; Kyon is the necessary sarcastic balance to Haruhi's antics, and Haruhi adds some pleasant weirdness to Kyon's normalcy. I don't even think of them as romantic or anything.
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