Forum - View topicWhy are characters in romance anime always so damn stupid?!
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PantsGoblin
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I changed "most anime out there" to "most anime I have seen".
The fact that it was based on a renai game with multiple ending means you could have just been as easily wrong if they chose to go with a different ending. Which, actually, they are planning on making into an anime (Haruka's ending from the game). Or as so Moonphase has reported. |
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Swissman
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I doubt that. KgNE doesn't belong to a genre of more realistic romance stories like those from Adachi Mitsuru or Hidenori Hara where you really don't know how the relationships between the main characters develop over time. As part of the dating-sim nature, the viewer is never left completely unsure about what will happen to the protagonists. Like in a game, they give you clear hints with which girl the main guy will probably score. In the case of KgnE, Takayuki has two choices for his "perfect girlfriend": Haruka or Mitsuki (he finally chose spoiler[Mitsuki over Haruka. Btw: Did you guys notice he did it after Haruka showed some real strenght towards the end and Mitsuki needed desperately comfort, as if the better (or more romantic) choice out of the two would be a "weak" girl opposed to a strong-willed one? ... I didn't like this undercurrent message]. Takayuki ending up with the chief nurse or a newly introduced character towards the end, as example for "surprises", wouldn't fit to the genre. |
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HitokiriShadow
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True, there is no way he would have ended up with one of them. But at the beginning, he had even odds of ending up with either Haruka and Mituski. You may have guessed right, but you had even odds of being wrong.
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Zalis116
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I've heard that these dating-sim-based anime are dependent on the viewer's level of affection for the female characters, and that effect is in play in KgNE--viewers who get immersed and invested in the series will tend to "choose" a girl (much like someone playing the game would) and want the guy to end up with that girl, regardless of what logic says "should" happen. Call it a strength and weakness of the dating-sim genre. In the end, I'm sure the critics will have their field day tearing KgNE apart later this month when the DVD comes out (and blaming fansubs if sales are poor), and KOR will continue to stand the test of time. But while I appreciated KOR and liked it enough to watch all the episodes/OVAs/movies, it never took me on the emotional rollercoaster ride that KgNE did. If that makes me a sentimental melodrama-loving fanboy, fine--I still stand by it. (Besides, this wasn't really the KgNE vs. KOR thread in the first place...there's got to be some other stupid characters in anime romances, right?) |
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HitokiriShadow
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Well, it was manga not anime, but I was reading volume 10 of I"s yesterday and I wanted to shoot the main character for a number of reasons related to his decisions and thought processes which brought him to them. |
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Gauss
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NO! Mitsuki was about the only one I sympathised with in a show I came to dislike. Not going to have much of an incentive to watch the remake now. Anyway, apropos what various people have said about realism. The continued drama in KGNE depends on them not talking. The moment he opens his mouth the dramatic tension is gone. So they have to stretch it to the point of unrealism. It goes way beyond the communication difficulties you would expect between two people who do after all love each other. He was just so incredibly spineless. Mitsuki at least could take the initiative, which is why I liked her though that initiative made her do something incredibly stupid towards the end. Haruka just sat in the hospital bed blissfully unaware of what was going on while her family played the guilt card on the guy. |
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dormcat
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If I fell in a coma for a long period of time and then recovered but unsure how much time had passed, the first thing I'd like to ask would be some newspaper or news on TV. If any friend, relative, or hospital personnel were being hesitant then there must be something wrong. On the other hand, KgNE is probably the worst example of miscommunication in the history of romantic anime. Most people in real life or in any other romantic anime don't behave in that way. |
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bluepita
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Anime reflects and exaggerates life. People are stupid and don't communicate, therefore anime characters do the same only worse. For example, this weekend my boyfriend tells me about a girl he knows. Let's call her 'Laura.' Laura thinks 'Scott' is mad at her. She asks my ex, who suggests she ask him. Instead, she invents this entire plan that involves ordering things through his ticket (waiters) and evaluating his response. Her plan was so convoluted, it took him literally 10 minutes to explain it.
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abunai
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See, this sort of thing is why I'm thankful for my Y chromosome. - abunai |
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bluepita
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Lol, it kind of makes me wish I had one myself. |
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daxomni
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Romatic anime series often have characters that are so blind, stubborn, and hesitant to express their true feelings that I sometimes wind up getting bored with the whole plot and just blow it off. Even series I really enjoyed, such as Fushigi Yugi, sometimes leave me pulling my hair out with their unnecessary stupidity. At least in the case of FY some of the blindness and hesitation can be attributed to the young age, inexperience, and rogue lifestyles of some of the characters. When two modern-day Tokyoites can't seem to express and acknowledge the blindingly obvious, such as in Sakura Diaries, I just want to kick something. Hard. Thanks for giving me a chance to vent but I know I'll still be watching romantic anime for years to come, even with all its faults. I guess it's just in my blood.
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Samurai-with-glasses
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Mind you, I'm not "jaded" enough to be "faded" yet, but then again I probably avoid those kinds of series by instinct. |
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Stupidman007
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whats funny about these series is that everything about it tells you that it's a trap, yet you walk into it anyway...
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Animefreak6969
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but is that bad? a trap that could be enjoyable is a trap worth jumping head first in to save your little sister.
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