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[OT] Getting out of the otaku fandom.


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Animefreak6969



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:15 pm Reply with quote
I just thought about this and well.........i have to say that im TOTALLY obsessed with anime....I've read the other posts here and was like "Well i kinda dont have a say here because ima fanatic." (and thats in the tone where im angry or sad or aggrevated, just a realization). I mean I've taken Anime (and Games) instead of food or clothes, i haven't eaten for days because we went out to eat at fairly espensive places, and i remembered a DVD or Game came out so i asked me parents that if i didn't eat out with them for 2 or 3 days can i get this Game/DVD and thats how i live, and i hook every little kid i come across onto it (ya, that includes ones i dont know) and always wear something related to anime, Anime is above food and drink and breathing BARELY beats Anime......im kinda liking my rating system on life right about now. HELL my #1 super power that i want is the power to never have to go to sleep without damaging my eyes or any other system in my body. (my#2 is to make anything a FACT just by saying so) Anime smile


i.......dont remember why i posted this..
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LilacShadow



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:58 pm Reply with quote
I remember when one of my cousins came over and looked in my room once. He looked at my manga and DVD shelves and my Fruits Basket wall scroll and calendar, and he said I'd grow out of anime in a few years. Honestly, I don't think I'll ever completely stop liking anime. There might be some anime I stop liking, but I don't think I can ever stop liking every anime. And I think there are some that I like so much I'll never stop liking them. I don't see anime in general as something you "grow out of" since there's plenty of mature anime that's not for kids. Most people who aren't anime fans probably don't believe that though.

Also, I don't care a lot about what other people think of me being an anime fan. I'm always saying I like nerdy guys, so if I'm somewhat nerdy myself, I don't see a problem with it. ^^; I don't think being an anime fan is going to stop me from anything either... I don't see how it would. I plan to get a job as soon as I can, and I want to eventually become a fashion designer. (I realize the fashion designer part is going to take me a while though.) How is anime going to stand in the way of this? I'm not all that concerned with having friends, but I doubt that anime would stop me from having any. Unless I constantly talk about it, but I don't think I do that anyway. I can find other things to talk about when I need to.

I think maybe some people get so obsessed at one time, and then it just becomes boring after that time is over. I'm actually not sure if that makes much sense.. Personally, I don't think I'm really all that obsessed. I guess I probably am to an extent, but it could be so much worse, so I don't think of it as a big deal. I don't even call myself an otaku. (If other people consider me that because I'm an anime fan, that's fine, but it's not something I go around saying.) Anime has gotten to be a decent part of my life, but it's not everything and I realize that.
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frentymon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:13 am Reply with quote
Viga_of_stars wrote:
i still can't see how. i a big fan and i want to be one for 10 20 30 yrs maybe. is it age? reality hit you to leave the otaku world?


The otaku world? Isn't that the world involving hikikomori-esque behaviour, basements, sleep deprivation, 2chan/4chan, galge, little moe anime figurines, and a serious departure from reality? I don't think any of us are in that kind of world...

On the subject of getting out of anime fandom, I don't think it can be done unless you're a really casual anime fan. If you're concerned, you could limit yourself and become a more casual fan I suppose, but it would be near-impossible, I think, to completely wipe out anime from your life.

Animefreak6969 wrote:
I mean I've taken Anime (and Games) instead of food or clothes, i haven't eaten for days because we went out to eat at fairly espensive places, and i remembered a DVD or Game came out so i asked me parents that if i didn't eat out with them for 2 or 3 days can i get this Game/DVD and thats how i live


If I was obsessed with anime to the point where I was pushing aside life necessities (food, water, sleep) for anime watching time, I'd be seriously worried...

Just me though.
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Animefreak6969



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:16 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
Viga_of_stars wrote:
i still can't see how. i a big fan and i want to be one for 10 20 30 yrs maybe. is it age? reality hit you to leave the otaku world?


The otaku world? Isn't that the world involving hikikomori-esque behaviour, basements, sleep deprivation, 2chan/4chan, galge, little moe anime figurines, and a serious departure from reality? I don't think any of us are in that kind of world...

On the subject of getting out of anime fandom, I don't think it can be done unless you're a really casual anime fan. If you're concerned, you could limit yourself and become a more casual fan I suppose, but it would be near-impossible, I think, to completely wipe out anime from your life.


wait a minute? did you just say that being an anime fan for 10-30 years is automatically Hikikomori? thats not very close to being one is it?

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If I was obsessed with anime to the point where I was pushing aside life necessities (food, water, sleep) for anime watching time, I'd be seriously worried...

Just me though.


YEP, thats just you. Anime smile
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Richard J.



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:19 am Reply with quote
Animation has always caught my eye, I grew up watching Transformers, G.I. Joe, and The Real Ghostbusters. I still have very fond memories of them and with Transformers and G.I. Joe, I also have DVDs.

Anime is something I've been drawn into because it's animated and it has amazing stories and characters. I love the flavor or Japanese culture too. Even as it becomes more familiar, I only find myself enjoying it more. I'm not a wannabe Japanese type, but I find myself drawn to their culture.

I've only live 24 years, but even if I live to be a hundred (not too unlikely given my family's excellent health in their elder years Very Happy ) I don't think I'll ever stop enjoying anime unless they just plain stop writing interesting stories.

On whether or not being a fan is something that you should be open about, if I'm asked directly if I like anime, I'll answer honestly. I don't make a show of being a fan, but I don't hide it either. I'm a lot like LilacShadow, I really don't care all that much what everyone else thinks of me.
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frentymon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:25 am Reply with quote
Animefreak6969 wrote:
wait a minute? did you just say that being an anime fan for 10-30 years is automatically Hikikomori?


Um, no. I'm just saying that those are constituent traits of common otaku lifestyle. The point I was trying to make with that is that getting out of "otaku fandom" and "anime fandom" are two very different things, and are not entirely interchangeable terminology.

How did you come to the conclusion that I was denouncing the entirety of long-term anime fandom as otaku? I'm a long-time anime fan myself, jeez...
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omar235



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:34 am Reply with quote
I am pretty bad with my hobbies...I to will go with out eating, sleep, drinking just to afford what I can. Very Happy For someone to go in and out of anime is normal, my friend (the only one who likes anime) does it also, for months at a time. I don't know anyone who has left anime and never gone back to it at least once somewhere in there life
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Animefreak6969



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:42 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
Animefreak6969 wrote:
wait a minute? did you just say that being an anime fan for 10-30 years is automatically Hikikomori?


Um, no. I'm just saying that those are constituent traits of common otaku lifestyle. The point I was trying to make with that is that getting out of "otaku fandom" and "anime fandom" are two very different things, and are not entirely interchangeable terminology.

How did you come to the conclusion that I was denouncing the entirety of long-term anime fandom as otaku? I'm a long-time anime fan myself, jeez...


i dunno, thats why i asked on that because i be confused
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Zalis116_v2



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:44 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
The otaku world? Isn't that the world involving hikikomori-esque behaviour, basements, sleep deprivation, 2chan/4chan, galge, little moe anime figurines, and a serious departure from reality? I don't think any of us are in that kind of world...
Well, let's see...
Basements: check.
Hikikomori-esque behavior: check.
Sleep deprivation: check, sort of.
2chan/4chan: no.
Galge: On occasion, never played a truly pornographic one though.
Figurines: check.
Serious departure from reality: semi-check, since I made a conscious decision to escape from reality even before I got into anime.

I seem to be a semi-distinct position of getting into anime later in life (when I was 21), so it feels too early to be thinking about getting out of it now. After all, there are still dozens of series on my shelves and on my HDs that are yet to be watched, new ones coming out all the time, and numerous favorites that I'd love to see again. Maybe when I'm in my early 30s or so, I'll consider taking all my DVDs and manga to a "Sell it on eBay" store, reformatting those HDs, and getting out of the fandom, but for now, I'm doing fansubbing work, staffing an up-and-coming convention, and writing marginally well-known mini-reviews at this site and elsewhere; it just feels like there's so much more to be done. I've never once felt a shortage of interesting series to watch/read; aside from the new stuff coming out, I'm always learning about some older gem that appeals to me.
That said, I have occasionally thought of getting out of the fandom, simply because, like Shinji, running away is my solution to everything. However, thinking about it logically, would it really solve any of my problems? Would leaving the fandom write my résume for me, make women like me, make me more social/confident/outgoing/attractive, or otherwise improve my life in any way? The answer, in my opinion, is "no," and until there's enough to make it a "yes," I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. Sure, maybe I'll cut it down a bit and play up some other interests for respectability purposes, but since I've never worn my fandom on my sleeve in the outside world (don't wear the gear for it, don't talk about it), it's not that much of a problem to hide. Maybe I should get rid of the figurines, though...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:37 am Reply with quote
EVA fiend wrote:

Why should anyone care about your hobbies, professionally or otherwise? Just because golf is an acceptable past time but anime is not professionally, you should drop anime for just appearence sake so-to-speak?


Because there are certian professions out there that have a symbiotic relationship with your personal and at-home hobbies and interests.

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You make it sound like anime fans should be ashamed of their hobby.


If they reach a point where theyre calling themselves 'otaku' then I guess they should be. No valid reason, mind you, but that's essentially what I think. More often than not if I ever meet self-professed anime fans they're horrendously embarrasing and annoying to be around, so I think that is something to be ashamed of. If you're going to act like some kind of nerd attention magnet, maybe you lshould reconsider where you hang out or what you do around others.

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I think I've managed pretty well so far.


Which is fine but doesn't always work for some people.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:55 am Reply with quote
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Because there are certian professions out there that have a symbiotic relationship with your personal and at-home hobbies and interests


and all you have to do there is NOT aim for that profession. Anime smile
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:58 am Reply with quote
Animefreak6969 wrote:

and all you have to do there is NOT aim for that profession. Anime smile


YEAH BECAUZ ANIME IS ALL TAHT IS IMPORTANT I LOVE TOMIZUKI SEKU-SAMA SHE IS BEST SEIYUU IN NIHON MAN DID U SEE COWBOY BEBOP (KAUBOI BEBAPPU!?Confused!?!DESUKA!)

Right.
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Animefreak6969



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:07 am Reply with quote
Steventheeunuch wrote:
Animefreak6969 wrote:

and all you have to do there is NOT aim for that profession. Anime smile


YEAH BECAUZ ANIME IS ALL TAHT IS IMPORTANT I LOVE TOMIZUKI SEKU-SAMA SHE IS BEST SEIYUU IN NIHON MAN DID U SEE COWBOY BEBOP (KAUBOI BEBAPPU!?Confused!?!DESUKA!)

Right.


nah, i find holding shift or leaving capslock on to be inconveniant. Anime smile
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Richard J.



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:10 am Reply with quote
Steventheeunuch wrote:
Because there are certian professions out there that have a symbiotic relationship with your personal and at-home hobbies and interests.
Which professions are you thinking of specifically?

Personally, I'm drawing a blank, but then I haven't really been exposed to many professionals other than lawyers and doctors. I've never really considered a person's personal hobby to have much of an impact on their profession. I've met a few lawyers with some decidedly odd hobbies but never noticed anything related in their work.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:12 am Reply with quote
Animefreak6969 wrote:

nah, i find holding shift or leaving capslock on to be inconveniant. Anime smile


The point, in a more direct way, is that for all Anime has to offer, being in a career that I enjoy where I have to make these sacrifices for the sake of image is more important than imported japanese cartoons. This doesn't mean i dont like it, but im not going to cons, putting up posters, or any of that crap (I dont anyway) or openly expressing some kind of fanboy love (which I dont). Anime is inconsequential to the big picture as far as I am concerned, and I guess the original message I am saying is that well, yes, you can stop being 'otaku' or part of anime fandom. You just need a significant draw, which is something you activley have to look for, usually.
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