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agila61
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If it was just for manga, I'd be nervous. However, this does seem to be the upgrade to the Nook Color / Tablet "only" ebook content in general, and they are not going to leave the money from the sales of all of that content "on the table". So look for an upgrade to the Nook Android and Nook iOS app sometime this year. Personally I'd expect it in the first half, but in any event no later than the Xmas2012 shopping season.
Yeah, maybe the Nook Simple Touch when the general Android app comes out, since it can be rooted and already successfully runs Amazon, Kobo, and Aldiko Android apps ... but otherwise it seems they are targeting the upgraded ePub reader at multi-media content, so B&N's focus will likely be on the media tablets, tablet PC's like the iPad, and smartphones. I tried the Viz online reader again with the Nook Color in portrait single page and it was so close, but still after ten pages my eyes were hurting. I've tried the GuidedView on JManga, and it works great for reading on both my netbook and my NC (though the site itself is very laggy on the NC), and I quite like it. But it doesn't have to be pure panel to panel ~ locking zoom on page turn and passing through the "right to left N" from top right, bottom right, top left and bottom left would be quite workable. But until I hear that either they've got something like that on the Nook Color or its available for ePub manga if I jailbreak the Nook DRM, I'm not yet in the market for eTankoubon. |
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vashna
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From what you're saying then, agila61, I take it that some emails to Barnes and Noble to support the older original platform aren't going to do much good, right? It's a shame, because the original Nook is the best physically designed in the whole family of eReaders. I also have trouble, as I mentioned before, using many types of backlit screens because of a developmental disability.
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agila61
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Well, I don't have any inside info, and I'd never discourage letting firms know what you want, I'm just saying I wouldn't have high hopes for the 3g. However, the Nook Simple Touch is an eInk reader, and it can already be rooted to use a number of general Android apps, so when B&N comes out with their general Android ePub3.0 ereader app, we could look out to see if it gets added to the working apps list for a rooted NST. And it might help to remind them that their upgraded format is for visual novels, not just multimedia, so they ought to upgrade their NST to let it do that. |
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Tylerr
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Its to bad their digital releases are way behind the phyiscal ones.
Good idea, poor exicution. If they get something like cr with same day releases then it might be worth it, but as it stands now scanslators release copies sometimes weeks before even the official release. |
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vashna
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Before I seriously consider anything like that in the future, I was wondering if rooting out a device like that was legal. Though I realize how it is done, and how it voids the warranty, I wanted to make sure that doing so doesn't violate some sort of patent protection. Then again, I also realize that Google Android is arguably open source software, which would suggest an air of legality.
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agila61
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The short answer is that I think we'll find out for sure later this year. The original exemption issued by the Librarian of Congress from DCMA anti-circumvention language was for cellphones, but the AFAIU the EFF had only petitioned for cellphones. It seems to me that the same logic applies, but having the Librarian of Congress explicitly rule would make it unambiguous. So, IOW, check into the EFF, when the 2012 exemption rulings are announced, they'll cover it. Long answer, I believe the relevant legal question is under DCMA copyright, since rooting / jailbreaking / etc. is argued by some manufacturers to be a circumvention of a copyright control system. The EFF petitioned the Library of Congress to rule on the question of rooting cellphones, and the Librarian of Congress ruled (excerpted):
That was 2009, before the Nook Color existed. With a three year term on a ruling, these are expiring and EFF is petitioning for both smartphones and tablets this time. |
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leafy sea dragon
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In addition to that, the Shonen Jumps are huge and printed on very low quality paper. The magazines would eat up space as the year goes by, and even if someone does keep them, the paper deteriorates not long afterwards to where they're unreadable. Which makes me wonder--does anybody archive the non-manga sections of these magazines? They wouldn't show up in the higher-quality books released afterwards. When they're tossed out, they're gone forever. |
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agila61
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Why, yes, the bootleggers do ~ there are RAW manga scanners who'll scan the whole issue, cover to cover. I assume that the publisher also keeps an archive, but whether that would be publicly accessible is a good question to pose someone working in the industry in Japan. |
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InitialT
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The reason it "sucks" for reading DMP titles (and also Seven Seas titles), is that they were published as epubs. That format is meant for text based books and has fixed width pictures that can't be panned and zoomed. All of those were published before Nook Comics was launched and have nothing to do with what's being talked about on this thread. The Viz titles (and Yen Press and Marvel Comics) are all using the new Nook Comics format. That's why it's only currently available on Nook Tablet and Nook Color. If you were able to view the book on one of the apps, it's not a Nook Comic. Nook Comics give you panning and zooming and let you flick through the contents with thumbnails of each page. IMHO it gives you what you need to read a manga. (Incidentally, I bought the whole Amazing Agent series from Seven Seas in Epub and I was able to read it just fine, but I'm hoping they will re-release it using the new format.) |
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agila61
Posts: 3213 Location: NE Ohio |
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Called it! On the Nook BookClub forum, three hours ago:
So someone interested in making sure that the Viz Nook editions look good on a general Android device, now's your chance to contribute. |
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HeeroTX
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While this is encouraging, I want to note that there's already a Nook Android app and this message does not confirm that manga will be available on the new app, merely that they are testing a new app (new version?). I'm hopeful this means we can get manga on the new app, but until the app comes out or B&N confirms ALL content will be on it, we don't know what this new app will bring. |
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agila61
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Aha! OK, I'll ask.
But wouldn't you admit that the odds that they are investing in major beta release testing across multiple devices for something that is just a maintenance update of the app they already have are awfully low? There's never any guarantee that they won't have to trim some capability out of the app, at least for some Android versions ~ for example, the full multimedia capabilities might not be supporters across all Android versions ~ but if people don't want that to happen for their device when there's no need, they ought to sign up as beta testers. |
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Kidnicky
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Could I read an issue of SJ on the Kindle Fire just by using the web browser?
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agila61
Posts: 3213 Location: NE Ohio |
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You could give it a crack. You'll want to set it to single page in landscape then turn it to portrait to read (the options button goes off-screen in portrait). If you are comfortable reading it without zooming, you'll be OK. Otherwise zooming is not very responsive, the zoom control is not sized for touchscreen control, and since you have to reset the zoom every page, it gets old ~ for example, missing the zoom, getting the tap read as next page or previous page, and the page turn dumping the zoom back where you started. If you had a capacitive touchscreen stylus it would probably work better in zoom and pan use. But if the default zoom level works for you, it ought to work fine. You can test easily enough, register for a free account, go to series, and hit one of the manga previews. |
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Kidnicky
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Well,that's just the thing-I don't have either a Nook Color or Kindle Fire,and I'm trying to decide which to buy.
Is SJ Alpha readable on one,both,or neither,and if both,is it BETTER on one or the other? I also follow Action Comics,Incredible Hulk,and Justice League,but I think through comixology you can read those on whatever,at least as far as I know. This whole thing is so confusing. I already have a kindle touch,I figured it would be fine for manga if not American comics (manga's in B&W!),but no,I have to buy a whole 'nother thing. |
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