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quoththeraven
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:17 pm
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Muhahaha. The dreaded question that eats at the souls of anime-watchers beyond the age of twenty-five.
Or maybe not.
But its a fair question to ask i suppose.
For some, anime seems like this thing you watch with your friends starting as a kid and moving through till the end of college. You hang onto it for a few more years, and then *poof* your an adult with a mortgage to pay, kids to feed, a 9 to 5 job to go to.
Bada-bing bada-boom, your done.
Now, i'm not saying that this is the fate of everyone. But i can't help but noticing from my vantage point mid-way in the process that up ahead of me in the late-late twentys and early 30s, the crowd of anime lovers thins out ALOT.
And i haven't met a single person in their 40s who still likes anime and isn't somehow connected to it as an industry. Whether they own a manga shop or whatnot.
In other words, i haven't met a 40 year old who likes anime and hasn't turn that relationship into some sort of business.
So what do you think? Is this simply a fated process? Life will get more busy and anime will slowly sink into the back of our heads until we're all in our 60s watching our grandchildren watch Lupin III and going "Hey, i remember that!"
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Ktimene's Lover
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:35 pm
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Is it possible to get too old for anime or animation in general? I suppose so but it really depends on the individual. I've heard Greg Ayres say the age of anime fans at conventions is from the young to the retired.
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:40 pm
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quoththeraven wrote: | And i haven't met a single person in their 40s who still likes anime and isn't somehow connected to it as an industry. Whether they own a manga shop or whatnot.
In other words, i haven't met a 40 year old who likes anime and hasn't turn that relationship into some sort of business. |
Well, I'm an anime addict (a recent one, too...from January of this year) and I'm 44. I have no connection to the anime industry other than a burning desire to marry Laura Bailey and have 10,000 of her babies. I agree that us anime oldies are a rare breed. I feel like Methuselah when I go to a con, but unlike unicorns, we actually do exist.
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abunai
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:43 pm
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quoththeraven wrote: | Muhahaha. The dreaded question that eats at the souls of anime-watchers beyond the age of twenty-five.
Or maybe not.
But its a fair question to ask i suppose. |
It's always fair to ask a question, but sometimes the very act of asking the question reveals that one has an extremely narrow focus, and is ignorant of a number of facts that could otherwise have been easily learned. For instance, that quite a lot of users of ANN are over 25. In many cases, well over.
quoththeraven wrote: | For some, anime seems like this thing you watch with your friends starting as a kid and moving through till the end of college. You hang onto it for a few more years, and then *poof* your an adult with a mortgage to pay, kids to feed, a 9 to 5 job to go to. |
Or you watch it by yourself -- and when your kids grow old enough, you get to share it with them.
quoththeraven wrote: | Bada-bing bada-boom, your done. |
*sigh*
quoththeraven wrote: | Now, i'm not saying that this is the fate of everyone. But i can't help but noticing from my vantage point mid-way in the process that up ahead of me in the late-late twentys and early 30s, the crowd of anime lovers thins out ALOT. |
That's right... but largely because most people in that age group have had less exposure to anime in the first place. Their interests are different, not because they grew out of anime -- but because they never grew into it in the first place.
Also... you really should put some effort into your spelling. For starters... "a lot" is not a single word, and "you're" has an elision, since it is a contraction of "you are".
quoththeraven wrote: | And i haven't met a single person in their 40s who still likes anime and isn't somehow connected to it as an industry. Whether they own a manga shop or whatnot. |
Hello, pleased to meet you. My name is Peter, and I have no connection with the anime industry, whether production, licensing or retail, in any way. I'm also 44.
quoththeraven wrote: | In other words, i haven't met a 40 year old who likes anime and hasn't turn that relationship into some sort of business. |
My business is teaching. Right now, I hope that I'm teaching you that your views are in error.
quoththeraven wrote: | So what do you think? Is this simply a fated process? Life will get more busy and anime will slowly sink into the back of our heads until we're all in our 60s watching our grandchildren watch Lupin III and going "Hey, i remember that!" |
At your tender (very tender) age, I'm sure 60 is a fabulously ancient and decrepit age to attain. Since I teach clever and mentally agile people who are sometimes in their 70s and 80s and still learning new things every day, I can assure you that people don't come to a halt, mentally, once they turn 30. Quite the contrary, in fact. Sometimes, they grow out of a lot of bad habits. Such as taking it for granted that the world matches their prejudices.
- abunai
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Ktimene's Lover
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:54 pm
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Abunai has a point that growing out of a habit can happen at any age. It can be hard to say what age one is too old for enjoying until perhaps they no longer have the energy to do it.
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Key
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:02 pm
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quoththeraven wrote: | Now, i'm not saying that this is the fate of everyone. But i can't help but noticing from my vantage point mid-way in the process that up ahead of me in the late-late twentys and early 30s, the crowd of anime lovers thins out ALOT. |
Did it ever occur to you that, because anime's popularity only really started to boom in the mid-to-late '90s, the big population which first got interested in anime as teens during that time are only just now starting to reach their early 30s?
This phenomenon has already struck in RPGs and struck years ago in scale miniature games. I recently attended Gen Con, one of the world's largest pure gaming conventions, and probably well more than half or the regulars in many of the role-playing areas (especially in the Dungeons and Dragons areas) were in their 30s or older. If you look at tactical miniature games, you can probably bump that up to 40s or older.
Granted, some people do "age out" of such hobbies (or regard themselves as having done so because they see it as a kid's hobby) or simply have life intervene and decide that they have no more time for it (although I've seen people bring their babies to RPG events, so where there's a will, there's a way). But being too old is entirely a state of mind.
(Spoken by someone who sees that 40 mark approaching all too swiftly.)
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sailorsarah08
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:10 pm
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I have a friend whose mother is 45 and she still likes anime. She was in the generation of Speed Racer which is still her all time favorite. She buys series, and a lot of the time watches it with her family (and me when I get the chance . ) She says she likes it the same as she did when she was younger but now she has people to share it with.
I think weather or not your kids like it is a big factor.
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Ktimene's Lover
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:29 pm
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Key said:
Quote: | Spoken by someone who sees that 40 mark approaching all too swiftly.) |
Come on, Key, my age in days (over 8300) makes your age in yours look like a cell. Anyways, the "aging out" for me personally won't happen until I decide.
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LordRedhand
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:43 pm
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Key wrote: |
This phenomenon has already struck in RPGs and struck years ago in scale miniature games. I recently attended Gen Con, one of the world's largest pure gaming conventions, and probably well more than half or the regulars in many of the role-playing areas (especially in the Dungeons and Dragons areas) were in their 30s or older. If you look at tactical miniature games, you can probably bump that up to 40s or older.
Granted, some people do "age out" of such hobbies (or regard themselves as having done so because they see it as a kid's hobby) or simply have life intervene and decide that they have no more time for it (although I've seen people bring their babies to RPG events, so where there's a will, there's a way). But being too old is entirely a state of mind.
(Spoken by someone who sees that 40 mark approaching all too swiftly.) |
I attended Gen Con as well this year and most of the "younger" crowd was at the anime portion of the convention. Although I'm not surprised that Gen Con's gaming portion is older, the average age is 36, so we're looking at a range of 26 to 46 in gamers. Anime tends to go lower in terms of just basic market pull. I'd say if you feel 25 is the "high end" were looking at a median range from like 5 to 25.
@quoththeraven
Now certainly people can get into and "grow out of" any hobby it's just a matter of appeal for the most part. For example I buy fewer series as there are not many that I like being made right now (about 1 or 2 new announcements have made me excited just on concept, others are a wait and see (for the reviews)) Kinda like my Gen Con experience this year vs. last year, I bought fewer RPG books, as there wasn't anything really exciting (with the exception of Geist, loving that book) But it ebbs and flows, like any hobby.
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egoist
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:03 pm
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Well after what Abunai said there's pretty much nothing else to respond about your question. Either way I agree with Abunai there and I should add that it's more about your interests than your age.
At least in my case I believe that it's more natural to see a person over their 40's watching anime than an energitic teenager who should be playing around with his friends or hitting on girls.
I don't think I'll ever grow tired of anime, but that's just what I'm thinking right now, things might change.
One thing is for sure, I'll definitely never be ashamed of watching anime no matter what my age is.
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SailorButterfly
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:15 pm
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Key wrote: | Did it ever occur to you that, because anime's popularity only really started to boom in the mid-to-late '90s, the big population which first got interested in anime as teens during that time are only just now starting to reach their early 30s? |
This is me. Got into Sailor Moon when it was on CN.
I'm now 28, and I'm more an anime fan than ever...watch more, go to cons, cosplay, make AMVs, the works.
I don't see myself "aging out" of anime any time soon.
Life might prevent me from always being able to go to cons, but I'm sure I'll at least always be watching anime.
If I have kids, I hope to have them grow up around it, and hopefully they'll enjoy it too.
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Kelly
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:20 pm
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I feel most people will naturally "grow out" of certain kid-oriented anime like Pokemon that aren't designed to appeal to adults as well; but as the very existence of seinen and to a lesser extent josei proves, there's no need to necessarily grow out of it completely. Also, keep in mind that with the first wave of Simpson fans in the process of hitting their 40's (gosh that makes me feel old!) being an adult animation fan is fast losing the stigma it once had.
That being said, considering that watching series is rather time consuming, I would imagine that it would be a more difficult hobby to maintain if one's SO is not also a fan, or at least open to becoming one.
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Ktimene's Lover
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:04 pm
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But old habits die hard: I am almost 23 and watch Bakugan. I know, that's a young shounen show.
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rooneyt
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:18 pm
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i dont think you can get to old for anime. just because there is always new genres coming out for people of all ages.
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nightjuan
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:45 pm
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I can definitely see my own interest in anime gradually declining over time, mainly because it already has, but I seriously doubt it will disappear completely until I'm way past middle age.
As much as I continue to enjoy anime, however, I used to have a lot more free time and the number of series I can actually follow with any kind of regularity is getting lower every year, so there certainly is a clear downward trend.
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