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CorneredAngel
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:05 am
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Another year when the contest is over before it even started. Although it really would be something if Waltz with Bashir won - or hell, even got nominated!
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lord_darkseid
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:27 am
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Likely the three nominees will be Wall-E, Kung Fu Panda and Madagascar 2.
Only seen Sword of the Stranger, which was pretty good. Not familiar with The Sky Crawlers. Anyone gimme some thoughts on it?
Wonder why Appleseed: Ex Machina wasn't nominated as well? It was pretty cool.
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JINROH
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:30 am
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CorneredAngel wrote: | Another year when the contest is over before it even started. Although it really would be something of Waltz with Bashir won - or hell, even got nominated! |
Aint that the truth.Bashir would be nice,but I'd like to see Stranja win.
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Splash
Joined: 30 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:48 am
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I'd loveeee to see Sword of the Stranger get put on the top three, but sadly I won't be surprised if it's as lord_darkseid says. Americans love their 3D studios and hollywood stars... not to say that I didn't love those movies (at least Wall-E), but I'd just squee more if something like Stranger would get more of the exposure it deserves.
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Maidenoftheredhand
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:20 am
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I did really enjoy Sword of the Stranger but WALL-E is just the better film. I wouldn't mind seeing Sword of the Stranger nominated but I think WALL-E deserves to win the award.
It's too bad The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is not up for consideration (I guess it isn't eligible because it is older) because that is the strongest anime film to come out in awhile IMO and if I think anything is worthy to compete against WALL-E it's that film.
I haven't seen Sky Crawlers yet but it sounds really interesting.
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Big Hed
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:41 am
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WALL-E is the only mainstream title out of the group that deserves the win, and I'm sure it's going to get it. Horton Hears a Who I could see being nominated, but not Kung Fu Panda or Madagascar 2.
I haven't seen Sky Crawlers or Sword of the Stranger, but I'm keen on seeing both in their impending DVD releases. I get the feeling that neither are quite Oscar worthy; maybe nominations, though.
It is a shame that The Girl Who Leapt Through Time didn't qualify though. That would've been considerable competition for WALL-E.
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valondar
Joined: 29 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:09 am
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CorneredAngel wrote: | Another year when the contest is over before it even started. Although it really would be something if Waltz with Bashir won - or hell, even got nominated! |
Nominated maybe. No way in hell it'll win with Wall-E's steamroller of a success, though. Persepolis/Ratatouille, rinse and repeat.
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hikaru004
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:21 am
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I hope Sword of the Stranger gets nominated. Yeah, I agree that Wall-E is going to win.
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Chicken008
Joined: 11 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:23 am
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What, no Girl that leapt through time? fail! First Paprika, now this..
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Julia-the-Great
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:34 am
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If there's a Pixar film in the lineup, this contest is already over. I personally felt Wall-E was too long and I don't have any particular interest in seeing it again, but it was cute and visually spectacular. If there's one thing Pixar knows how to do consistently right, it's to produce a movie that looks fabulous.
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Animehermit
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:47 am
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All i know is, if Igor gets nominated I'll eat a brick
I really thought in 2005 that Howl's Moving Castle should have won the award over Wallace and Gromit, but it seems, like most americans the academy can only focus on the how good the animation looks, not how good the storytelling is.
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KabaKabaFruit
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:54 am
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animehermit wrote: | I really thought last year that Howl's Moving Castle should have won the award over Wallace and Gromit, but it seems, like most americans the academy can only focus on the how good the animation looks, not how good the storytelling is. |
I would agree with you had that movie made some sense in its second half. However, I think Wallace and Gromit was a great film and Aardman and co. deserved their win for all their hard work and effort.
Next year, WALL-E will most likely get the Oscar if the first 40 minutes of that film mean anything to the Academy.
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halo
Joined: 11 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:14 am
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Chicken008 wrote: | What, no Girl that leapt through time? fail! First Paprika, now this.. |
It's not eligible because it ran in Japan in 2006.
animehermit wrote: | All i know is, if Igor gets nominated I'll eat a brick
I really thought in 2005 that Howl's Moving Castle should have won the award over Wallace and Gromit, but it seems, like most americans the academy can only focus on the how good the animation looks, not how good the storytelling is. |
I think it was the fact that Miyazaki had previously won with Spirited Away and Nick Park had yet to be honored. Plus, Howl's Moving Castle wasn't that good either.
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Jacut
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:45 am
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valondar wrote: |
CorneredAngel wrote: | Another year when the contest is over before it even started. Although it really would be something if Waltz with Bashir won - or hell, even got nominated! |
Nominated maybe. No way in hell it'll win with Wall-E's steamroller of a success, though. Persepolis/Ratatouille, rinse and repeat. |
Waltz With Bashir deserves to win, it's by far the best film out of these 14. I just hope that WALL-E won't get it, it was a very average film, and for me even Kung Fu Panda was better (not that I particularly like either of the two though, but KFP had more heart and animation was more consistent).
animehermit wrote: | I really thought in 2005 that Howl's Moving Castle should have won the award over Wallace and Gromit, but it seems, like most americans the academy can only focus on the how good the animation looks, not how good the storytelling is. |
I think it was the fact that Miyazaki had previously won with Spirited Away and Nick Park had yet to be honored. Plus, Howl's Moving Castle wasn't that good either.[/quote]
Well, Chihiro wasn't that good either and still won, all thanks to the "we want to award the best japanese animation director that made such a huge it on the box office" feeling. For me, they gave Chihiro this Oscar more for Miyazaki's lifetime's achievement than for this particular movie which is one of the weakest of the master (with Howl I agree).
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halo
Joined: 11 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:36 pm
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Jacut wrote: | Well, Chihiro wasn't that good either and still won, all thanks to the "we want to award the best japanese animation director that made such a huge it on the box office" feeling. For me, they gave Chihiro this Oscar more for Miyazaki's lifetime's achievement than for this particular movie which is one of the weakest of the master (with Howl I agree). |
No disagreement here. The Academy Awards is as much Hollywood marketing, politics and butt-kissing as it is judging each work by it's own merits. Miyazaki was due an award and he got it. Pixar makes consistently decent films that get lots of people into theaters and the Academy likes to reward that kind of stuff too. There are lots of reasons some films might seem less qualified but get nominated or even win.
I haven't seen Waltz With Bashir but to me it looks like the only one that has anything really to distinguish itself from the crowd. I haven't seen Sky Crawlers either but Sword of the Stranger was mediocre at best. I don't think it will be any grave injustice if it fails to get nominated, though it probably does deserve it more than most on the list since it was fairly well animated at least.
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