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NEWS: Police Arrest Please Tell Me! Galko-chan Creator Kenya Suzuki for Importing Child Porn

What's really disturbing is that there's People in the US who are already trying to "destigmatize" pedophilia. And looking at current trends in regards to "acceptance" and "pushing boundaries", It's only a matter of time before People starting turning a blind eye. One example: https://youtu.be/UNW13jjSL-E

From what I understand of the Watsuki case, its really not. The difference between the two was Watsuki had possesion and from what was reported, only had stuff from when it wasn't against the law which was only a shortly before he got caught with it and wasn't explicately purchasing it.

Yes dude. Your lolicon artists used real kids to get good at drawing kids. Here a scenario, if they didn't draw a certain artwork using a reference because they've drawn a pose so many times before from real CP/soft CP, does it matter if it from imagination?

That just stylization, something that you get good at when you learn to draw from life. Even than, you are still drawing from life even with stylization, you are just exaggerating certain features. Also, one of the hardest thing to draw is characters interacting physically with one another. You learn how to do that by drawing from the source. You think ecchi artist just got good from imagination?

He'll get a slap in the wrist by the courts

And this goes to show why loli manga needs to be banned and why Japan needs to start adhering to western standards with regards to anime, manga and other creations.

Artists who draw fan service are all perverted and probably all own some weird adult stuff.

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Given how far most hentai (or even ecchi) images of grown women stray from anatomical reality, I kind of doubt the use of real references (even porn) is as common as you claim.

That just stylization, something that you get good at when you learn to draw from life. Even than, you are still drawing from life even with stylization, you are just exaggerating certain features. Also, one of the hardest thing to draw is characters interacting physically with one another. You learn how to do that by drawing from the source. You think ecchi artist just got good from imagination?

Example of a man drawing a cartoon woman while referencing a real image. In his artwork the proportions are exaggerated, like the eyes and facial proportions but he is still following a structure of the real thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nJJ5r0kOy4

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No. That's you again making a baseless accusation against a group of artists. And again without a shred of evidence.

It not hard. You can look up how to become a better artist. Everyone will say the exact same thing. I guarantee you.

For the record, I've drawn anime-style children without using real kids as reference. I did use real references for my adults (gesture drawing, mostly), but especially with stylization, a basic class of anatomy on humans as a whole can help me draw a wide range of body types as long as I know basic skeletal structure, the muscles and how they pertrude, how fat sags with age, etc.

I'm not quoting you to target you, Juno, I just wanted to quote this to mention that the one area that I *have* seen use porn as reference material has been American comics from the 80's and 90's era, particularly with "women in fighting" poses. A tumblr blog I follow dedicated to the ludicrous poses women are subjected to (particularly in comics) managed to track down at least some of the sources used, and a good chunk of the action poses come from NSFW sources. Though I should clarify, obviously those references were only ever used for adult women.

The problem with discussions about this kind of news, is hat it quickly becomes a moral argument. People, who were already biased against this kind of art, jump out of their chairs to scream that they were right and use the incident as a way to validate their feelings and preconceptions, while other, who like the art, go and try to control the damage and defend their tastes. There's little to no discussion about the subject at the hand and it's implications, there's just people trying to fight and prove that they have a moral high ground. I don't mind discussing the interactions and effects of sexualization in fictional media, I even think that it's a interesting topic to discuss, however, when you start to claim that this kind of thing has a real life impact bigger and more dangerous than expected or known, than you will need proof to back it up. It's important to this discuss this kind of news and issue, however, it is important always to be careful with how the discussion develops, because at some point it may stray too far from the original point or give birth to things that were not intended.
Like, how censoring or putting a end to loli/shota art would have any positive impact or be seen as a positive solution to this case? How would banning this, stop this kind of people from Japan from importing German magazines?

Yes dude. Your lolicon artists used real kids to get good at drawing kids. Here a scenario, if they didn't draw a certain artwork using a reference because they've drawn a pose so many times before from real CP/soft CP, does it matter if it from imagination?