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KH91
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:52 am
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It would have seen an increase had Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dark Side of Dimensions didn't take nearly a full year to release on BD/DVD.
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dark13
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:00 am
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well a lot of big name titles didn't get there blu rays and dvds out until after 2016 , so it makes sense numbers are low.
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joe_g7
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:05 am
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It's pretty sad to see the graph at the end, it keeps getting lower and lower.
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samuelp
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:08 am
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I take issue with the conclusion here that the anime numbers "follow the trend of the overall market"...
If the overall market went down ~6% on 1.8 billion, and the anime market within that went down ~16% on 550 million of that, then it's "the overall market was hurt almost entirely due to the drop of sales in the anime market", no?
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Thorfinn
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:09 am
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Not shocking tbh, I'm kind of surprised that the market is still doing this good, the decline will continue for sure. The Japanese model is ridiculous with it's incredibly high prices and I guess it's good that the market hasn't crashed yet.
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jesusalcala11
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:14 am
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It's not really about the strength or number of titles released, but more with the internet and the convenience of digital media. As with everything else, digital services are growing and reducing interest in physical media and stores, as this graph shows. Source
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Random Name
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:27 am
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I wonder if the sale of anime goods such as figures has gone up as video sales go down.
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ssgOverlord
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:50 am
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It kind of hurts our market in the end, but I do know there's a decent number people who import US releases if they simply want to own it. I like reading the Amazon Japan reviews for those releases, and cheaper prices aside the space saving seems to also be a big appeal. Even I have some series in singles I'd like to replace with a new slimmer release but can't.
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Evernessince
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:02 am
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I wouldn't read too far into these numbers. Without a composite look at their other sources of revenue or if releases were just delayed into 2017, there's nothing you can draw from this information other than what is directly stated. As we've been seeing more and more, it could very well just be displacement by digital sales.
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:47 am
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jesusalcala11 wrote: | It's not really about the strength or number of titles released, but more with the internet and the convenience of digital media. As with everything else, digital services are growing and reducing interest in physical media and stores, as this graph shows. Source |
And this is why I'm so stuck on physical media. It's just so convenient that things get taken down with as little fanfare as its put up. Legally, at least. Searching the murky depths of the internet does fill in the gaps. But I don't want my viewing habits to be dictated by a single provider. Or Aniplex for that matter.
It's kind of funny that when Funimation licensed Nichijou, it didn't include streaming rights. It's so standard these days that it not happening should have been reported separately.
But the DVD market in Japan? That needs to come under control or at least get more in step with the rest of the world. Their physical market may be local and very isolated but it is competing against a worldwide online distribution that only continues to expand.
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Zin5ki
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:57 am
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Thorfinn wrote: | Not shocking tbh, I'm kind of surprised that the market is still doing this good, the decline will continue for sure. |
The fact that prices continue to increase amidst this fall in sales suggests that the domestic industry is happy to relegate physical media to collectable status symbols. Though I say this on a complete whim, this may be a consequence of global streaming revenues reducing the reliance on the once-important plastic disc.
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NishizawaMihashi
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:48 am
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ssgOverlord wrote: | It kind of hurts our market in the end, but I do know there's a decent number people who import US releases if they simply want to own it. I like reading the Amazon Japan reviews for those releases, and cheaper prices aside the space saving seems to also be a big appeal. Even I have some series in singles I'd like to replace with a new slimmer release but can't. |
I'm not too sure if it would eventually lead to a prevention of supply for physical copies but it may happen due to how funding is obtained to produce animated works in Japan. A few animated works are entirely or mostly self-reliant but it's difficult for studios to do so as they'd then have to set up ancillary businesses which would require additional funding.
For the record, it can be quite amusing to read through some of the imported disc reviews for anime on Amazon Japan. Their seemingly never-ending annoyance at the English subtitles being mandatory can become low-intensity schadenfreude if it continues to be a recurring 'gag' of sorts.
BTW, some of the singles on Amazon Japan can be astoundingly cheap for what they once were, though it is frustrating to have to profusely search for missing singles and so on.
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Jonny Mendes
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:03 am
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Looks like the trend will be to appeal more and more to the collectors market.
Physical disks sales are something that are going down not only in Japan but in the rest of the world.
How many people are wiling to buy disks? In the near future probably only collectors.
It doesn't matter how cheap they are, people are buying less and less.
It hurts to say this but the only way to make a decent profit is selling them to collectors that are wiling to spend big money on them.
Luckily disk sales is only a part of the reason why most anime is made.
If the things most anime are promoting are selling well, anime will continue to be made as nowadays.
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:08 am
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Honesly suprised this has not happened sooner. I'm not going to be gloom-and-doom about it but from an outside perspective of someone who majored in business the current Japanese anime market is deranged. Way too many titles coming out at the same time with many titles being almost identical.If they would just reduce the number of anime series overall they would see some profit. But they continue to churn out over 100 shows per year.
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Utsuro no Hako
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:32 am
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Evernessince wrote: | I wouldn't read too far into these numbers. Without a composite look at their other sources of revenue or if releases were just delayed into 2017, there's nothing you can draw from this information other than what is directly stated. |
Any shows that weren't released until 2017 are offset by 2015 series that were released in 2016. As long as you're comparing year to year, things like that don't make a difference. If sales dropped that sharply, it's a problem. Hopefully it's a problem that's offset by the rise in streaming in Japan, but it's not an insignificant phenomenon.
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