Forum - View topicPandora Hearts
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Dessa
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So, now that the final volume is available in English, I'm marathon reading Pandora Hearts, from the beginning. I haven't read the series fully before (I think I've gotten a bit further than halfway), but I did get through the big reveal that spoiler[Oz is actually B-Rabbit].
Taking that knowledge into the first volume, and I certainly picked up on a lot of subtle wording that indicates that Mochizuki knew right from the start where she intended to go with the story. For example, in the first chapter, when Oz spoiler[has the vision of him and Lacie], the wording is careful not to give anything away, but when you know the reveal, it gives a lot of depth to that scene. Another one came in volume 3, where Break flat-out says spoiler[that he only has a year to live]. When the event happened down the road, I was shocked, but now I realize that I should have seen it coming. I've only re-read through volume 3 (1/8 of the way done!), but I'll add more comments as I notice things. |
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st_owly
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I'm also planning on doing the same once I get all the volumes so I'd be interested to hear your thoughts too. I can't remember how far I've read.
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Dessa
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From checking chapter titles on Wikipedia, I think I'd stopped somewhere around volume 17. So I've still got 9 volumes to go to catch up (I just finished volume 8... I'm a fast reader when I put my mind to something), and then 8 volumes after that that are brand new to me.
I'm surprised, on my re-reading, of how fast things have gone. In 8 volumes, we're already through the stuff with Cheshire, learning about Jack, and learning Break's past. I never really thought about how (relatively) early those come. Although, I suppose, it was all covered in the anime, so... Another thing I'm realizing, is that the pacing is totally different from what I remembered. I got into the series with the anime, then scanlations of the manga, before either were licensed for the US. Waiting a week between episodes, or a month before chapters, makes it feel like things take much further to get to. But Cheshire was volumes 4 and 5, which, IIRC, were about the halfway point of the anime. And maybe that's why it feels like they should be further in, rather than a 6th of the way into the series. Oh, well, back to reading! |
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Dessa
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Well, I'm into volume 17 now.
Even knowing how it turned out, and specifically watching for clues, I did not see the spoiler[Headhunter/Humpty Dumpty] arc foreshadowed at all. I did, however, looking closer to 16/17, pick up clues as to spoiler[Jack not being completely trustworthy], although, given the type of series this is, I likely picked up on that the first time around as well. One thing I do have to point out, since it's been bugging me all volume so far (I'm halfway through 17), is that I'm 99% certain that spoiler[the incarnation of Glen before Oswald] is Robes from KIBA with his hair dyed blue. |
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Dessa
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I just finished 24, and all I can say is "wow"... That wasn't the ending I was expecting. It wasn't bad, just not what I expected.
A couple things that bugged me, now that I've finished the series: 1) We never spoiler[learned who/what Emily was]. It would have been nice if spoiler[it were a memento of Shelly's], or even spoiler[the Rainsworth Key, that Shelly had hidden for Break to safeguard]. When spoiler[he had a look of surprise on his face when Lilly brought Emily to him (despite not being able to see it)], I thought for sure that spoiler[Emily was important, and that we'd learn its importance], but it was never brought up. 2) What was spoiler[Oz's answer to Break's question of where he was]? Bringing it up again, and then spoiler[not giving us Oz's answer the second time] was just evil. The epilogue of the series, though, was perfect. I'm very glad I got into the series all those years ago, and I'm very satisfied with how it ended. And, of course, I still have the 3 volumes of Caucus Race to read. |
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Break Xerxes
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Pandora Hearts is one of my favorite manga series and I love Jun Mochizuki's artwork. I plan on re-reading the series once I buy the rest of the volumes. It's been a while since I last read it, so I need to refresh my memory.
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Dessa
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Watching the first episode of the anime, I'm realizing that I misunderstood some of the early scenes.
When spoiler[Oz gets his vision of the two Alice after finding the pocketwatch], it wasn't spoiler[him as B-Rabbit they were welcoming back]. It was spoiler[him as Jack they were welcoming back]. Something else I realized wasn't explained (or wasn't explained enough, at least), is spoiler[where exactly was the mansion for the Coming of Age ceremony, and what was its significance]? We know that spoiler[it's 200 years old, predating the Tragedy of Sablier], and that spoiler[Lacie's grave is there]. But spoiler[it doesn't seem to be Glen's home, since that was in Sablier, not the outskirts of Reveille], and spoiler[the Baskerville door was at Glen's home, and that wasn't this mansion]. |
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Gin-No-Ji
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u may have found a plot hole  i assumed it was the vessalius mansion.. but why would L's grave be there.. it shouldn't have exist anymore because of the tragedy
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Dessa
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We know it wasn't the Vessalius manor, because it was mentioned that the mansion was only used for coming-of-age ceremonies, and no one lived there. Plus, Oz wouldn't care about exploring if it were his home.
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Gin-No-Ji
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I assumed they were only playing around and hiding from his nanny.. i still remember poor gil got the blame 
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Dessa
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Nah, they were exploring. |
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