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slickwataris



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:08 pm Reply with quote
during righstuf's recent Geneon sale, I ordered the Paranoia Agent soundtrack to complete my 10 for $50 order. So I'm flipping through the cd booklet last night and there's this HUGE disclaimer on the first page that say's

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low quality sounds are often used deliberately in "Condition Boy" as per the composer's intentention. Although there are occasional noises and distortions, they are not due to the quality of this CD nor you CD player equipment.


do they honestly believe that we're so immature that we can't understand why a musician records music like that? This is the Paranoia Agent soundtrack for god's sake. Do they honestly believe immature audiences would actually sit through more than a couple of episodes when it was on TV let alone buy the soundtrack? It's not even that bad I would've never noticed without the "warning." This just pissed me off and it gets even worse:

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Cautions in handling CD:
-Please handle with care...
-Please wipe the disc lightly with a soft cloth...
.....

Cautions in storing CD:
-Please do not store the disc in places with direct sunlight...
-Placing a heavy item on the plastic case, or dropping it will break the case and can cause injury...


What year is this? I remember coming across these "directions" every once in a while back in the mid 90s when I started buying CDs. This CD was released in America in 2005. Do they honestly think it hasn't sunk in to the American public yet? Most of us buy blank CD-Rs and burn stuff on them and just throw them around our house, our car. I think we can all agree through trial and error that when there's a large scratch on the underside of a CD, IT WON'T WORK. And this isn't the first Geneon CD I own with this message, it's plastered over the entire lower half of the first two FLCL soundtracks (which look identical btw). I don't know how they handled their more recent soundtrack releases but I can't help but feel like they think I'm an idiot.
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v1cious



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:02 pm Reply with quote
you would be amazed at how many idiots are out there. the sound thing is actually pretty justified, as there are people who have bought bootlegs without knowing it before, and might assume they are getting burned. it's simply a way to avoid going into court.
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Subaru19



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:07 pm Reply with quote
I guess they think its better to be too careful. I can just imagine all the fans who might write in saying
"lik omgs wtfs up wif my CD" and getting all upset about it.

Also Susumu Hirasawa is kinda known for doing weird things with his recordings, so maybe the note was justified. There's a marked difference between what you hear on TV speakers while watching an anime and what you can hear through headphones if you're really paying attention.
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Aromatic Grass



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:32 pm Reply with quote
Subaru19 wrote:
I guess they think its better to be too careful. I can just imagine all the fans who might write in saying
"lik omgs wtfs up wif my CD" and getting all upset about it.

Yeah, I was just about to say that it would cause at least one person to sue.
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DemonEyesLeo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:37 pm Reply with quote
Don't get all huffy over this. Remember that McDonald's was sued over hot coffee because the cup didn't have the "Caution: May be hot" disclaimer.

Besides that, while you maybe accustomed to storing and handling CDs, there are some who aren't; most likely they've never bought a CD before and would need some direction.

Bottom line: ignore it.
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Porcupine



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:56 pm Reply with quote
I bought that CD too. That track wasn't even the most questionable sounding track...other tracks had far more "low quality" noises but oh well.

Still, other Geneon domestic releases actually HAVE been screwed up badly, for example the Lunar Legend Tsukihime OST1 (not the OST2) is filled with terrible pops throughout that are not present on the Japanese version of the same CD.
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DragonsRevenge



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:12 pm Reply with quote
DemonEyesLeo wrote:
Don't get all huffy over this. Remember that McDonald's was sued over hot coffee because the cup didn't have the "Caution: May be hot" disclaimer.

Besides that, while you maybe accustomed to storing and handling CDs, there are some who aren't; most likely they've never bought a CD before and would need some direction.

Bottom line: ignore it.


At this point, there's literally not a damn person on the face of the planet over the age of 5 who's never held a CD before. I can go with the "they're just covering their asses" argument, but with something like that, they're just questioning the person's intelligence.
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DemonEyesLeo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:30 pm Reply with quote
Just because they've held a CD doesn't mean they know the proper way to care for it. Now, obviously the disclaimers don't apply to most people, and if that's you then just ignore it.
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Aromatic Grass



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:28 am Reply with quote
DragonsRevenge wrote:
At this point, there's literally not a damn person on the face of the planet over the age of 5 who's never held a CD before.

Uh, well actually there are thousands of people who don't live near a form of civilization that would even carry CDs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:17 am Reply with quote
Aromatic Grass wrote:
DragonsRevenge wrote:
At this point, there's literally not a damn person on the face of the planet over the age of 5 who's never held a CD before.

Uh, well actually there are thousands of people who don't live near a form of civilization that would even carry CDs.

Yes, some people are just painfully behind the times:



This image contained actual footage, and I do mean footage, of penile sheaths (google it). Fortunately, my friend Pikachu stepped in to help me make it safe for even the most virginal or American sensibilities.

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DragonsRevenge



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:25 pm Reply with quote
Aromatic Grass wrote:
DragonsRevenge wrote:
At this point, there's literally not a damn person on the face of the planet over the age of 5 who's never held a CD before.

Uh, well actually there are thousands of people who don't live near a form of civilization that would even carry CDs.


Oh, whatever Rolling Eyes
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Aromatic Grass



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:31 pm Reply with quote
abunai wrote:
Aromatic Grass wrote:
Uh, well actually there are thousands of people who don't live near a form of civilization that would even carry CDs.

Yes, some people are just painfully behind the times:

Wow...but it's true. (Not the image.) Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:19 pm Reply with quote
DragonsRevenge wrote:
DemonEyesLeo wrote:
Don't get all huffy over this. Remember that McDonald's was sued over hot coffee because the cup didn't have the "Caution: May be hot" disclaimer.

Besides that, while you maybe accustomed to storing and handling CDs, there are some who aren't; most likely they've never bought a CD before and would need some direction.

Bottom line: ignore it.


At this point, there's literally not a damn person on the face of the planet over the age of 5 who's never held a CD before. I can go with the "they're just covering their asses" argument, but with something like that, they're just questioning the person's intelligence.


Actually there was the hot pickle lady lawsuit also. She got thrown out but the hot coffee lady, not to be confused with the hot coffee mod in San Andreas, actually won her case. So Sad. Just thought I'd throw that out there, now on to the actual topic.

Dragon is quit right about the handling issue. I worked at a Sam Goody/Sun Coast and I can attest to the lack of care many people show their cds and dvds. Some through ignorance but many through simple lack of knowledge on proper storage and cleaning techniques. Plus disclaimers are there to prevent that one jackass from suing for totally ignorant reasons just to make a buck. If they're such a problem blame the stupid people that make them a necessity and not the companies. Ignoring it is the best option really.

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At this point, there's literally not a damn person on the face of the planet over the age of 5 who's never held a CD before.

Most of the world doesn't live as well as we do in America buddy. Probably a good 75% of all of Africa hasn't held or listened to a cd ever. That's just that one continent. I really suggest you do some more studying about the world you live in before making ignorant and completely factless comments like that.
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mike_s_6



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:32 am Reply with quote
I don't know why people are getting upset with instructions. I don't even know why an intelligent person would be offended if someone offered them advice, even if they already know the advice! It's just a gentle reminder.

...I sometimes forget that being intelligent is different from being wise.
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Damius



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:07 pm Reply with quote
The ting is, if they say that they probably receive letters asking about it...

So yes people ask about those kind of things...
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