Forum - View topicNEWS: Japan's Animation TV Ranking, September 29-October 5
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marvel knight
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Nice to see Magic Kaito have a nice debut , even though the animation is kinda bad.
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thekingsdinner
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I expected to see Magic Kaito here but not The Seven Deadly Sins! I guess it's more popular in Japan than I imagined.
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RustikKun
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Sorry, but what does this rating?
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digidragon
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It's rating the percentage of households in the Kanto region that had these shows on their TVs. In other words, these are the most popular cartoons in the most populous region of Japan. |
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RustikKun
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thank you very much |
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Minimimiau
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Its nice to see precure on the list. the episode's of the week is important, so, I think fans can't loose the oportunity to watch it.
Sazae with 12 of ranking? Normally I see the anime with more ranking. |
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configspace
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This really needs to be qualified though. It is a small sample of households that choose to participate in the ratings systems in that region. They're given a device to install for their living room tv. It is not an accurate measure. |
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Jex2193
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Folktales from Japan Ranked? That's a first.
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Kutsu
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That's how all polls and measures of ratings works. With 1000 representative individuals/households, you have a margin of error of 2-3%, with 3000 representative individuals/households it goes down to around 1%...Basically, it's mostly accurate. |
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1thought
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With those TV ratings Seven Deadly Sins manga will more than likely see a boost in sales for the manga.
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Araki
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Yep. What he's doing is saying Nielsen isn't accurate either. |
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meepsheeps
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OMG Kaito and Seven Deadly Sins!!! Surprised to see both, even more for Seven Deadly Sins...
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configspace
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No, it's not accurate AT ALL. First, just think about it logically. If 1000 out of millions are sampled, and none of those sampled watch late night anime, your result would show 0 people watching. How is that accurate? Furthermore, not only is it voluntary, it is also random. Meaning they are obtaining for results of people who watch X. Yet, they are not specifically asking the volunteers if they watch X or X type shows. That alone shows it cannot be representative sample. How are you going to guarantee your margin of error when in fact, you have absolutely no way of knowing what kind of shows your sample watches beforehand? In other words, they don't correct or adjust their sampling in order to match possible proportions of the wider Kanto area. It could be that 25% of the Kanto region watches light night anime. But then for example, let's say they ask 10,000 people to participate and since it's voluntary, lets say they get 1000 people who sign up. It is an intrusive system and requires effort to maintain, where you have to remember to click on a button every time you watch TV everyday to register your "vote" for that show. It could be that only 1% of those 1000 random folks watch late night anime. How many non-family (single or roomates) households / apartments / dorms do you think sign up? Justin had mentioned previously how ratings don't matter. In fact it would be impossible to have a representative sample for anything outside the mainstream prime time viewing. But even if you did manage to capture the same proportions of the wider area in your sample, there are further problems. The first is that this measures only living room, household viewing, not individual viewing. So right away, the son or daughter who watches anime in his/her room will not be picked up. Or if the same situation if you have roomates instead in multi-person household. The second issue is that DVR usage is not captured and late night anime is primarily DVR'd. Unfortunately, this old PDF no longer is found (though you'll still find references to this exact pdf in other market research): http://www.dentsu.com/marketing/DVRs.pdf This is by Dentsu, the big Japanese advertising agency and anime producer. They said:
And now that anime is shown online, basically just Nico, the ratings system even less accurate than it already is for anything outside of prime time viewing.
Actually Nielsen is an improvement since they use a metering device instead of relying on people clicking every time they watch. And if I recall, they try to adjust sampling to capture various demographics to make their sampling as representative as possible, unlike Japan. I sort of recall them targeting college viewers, etc. And that's part of the key, to target your sampling, to ensure it roughly matches the proportion of the larger area. However, if they don't and it's completely random, then Nielsen would not be accurate either. Just as it would not be accurate if you relied on completely random, voluntary survey of American people to try to determine who watches what anime on Crunchyroll, Funimation, and TAN and Hulu. |
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digidragon
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Because that's how statistics work. Like Kutsu said, there's a margin of error. It's an estimate. Of course, you might argue that the margin of error is too high for the data to be significant....
...but that wouldn't be why. Of course it's random, and of course they're not going to ask people what kind of shows they're watching because that would bias the survey. It is a survey of the mainstream population. If you want a rating of the top anime among people who people who tend to watch lots of anime, you'll have to look elsewhere. |
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