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Kougeru
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:07 pm
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Wow. Not a story I wanted to read. Very depressing. Teachers have it hard enough having to deal with bratty kids verbally. No surprise she hasn't been back to teach....Even if she is fine now physically, I'm sure she's probably traumatized quite a bit. I hope she can overcome this.
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Teriyaki Terrier
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:10 pm
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All this over manga? I really hope that teacher is in better condition. I knew there were rowdy students, but this is fairly extreme.
This is very sad to hear.
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grooven
Joined: 16 Aug 2006
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:23 pm
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God some children, poor teacher. This reminds be of the time at my part time job when the 12 year old tried to steal a pair of goggles and got taken upstairs. He then tried to stab the loss prevention officer with a pen. Funny how the police knew him too.
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firedragon54738
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:41 pm
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And this is why you should hit your kids more
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Kruszer
Joined: 19 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:43 pm
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Must have been a good book, to go to Juvie over it.
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StormSky92
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:56 pm
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THIS JUST IN: MANGA MAKES KIDS VIOLENT
I wonder how many times that news story is going to get around in the next few days.
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evilkorpse
Joined: 28 Feb 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:00 am
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reminds me when i was a kid in fourth grade when the pokemon cards were the shit to collect back then and kids go crazy over it, and schools banning them. On the news i heard of this kid got his cards taken away by a security guard in school and the kid just started to attack the guard.
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jmaeshawn
Joined: 08 Feb 2011
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:52 am
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While I don't condone the student's behavior, even as a child, I have always felt that a teacher shouldn't engage in "confiscation" of a student's property, as it is simply a thin disguise for theft.
Back when I was in elementary school, teachers would often confiscate students trading cards, books, toys, etc. with no intention to ever return them. A group of us, along with our parents, all got together and started recording each and every time a teacher stole-er, confiscated property from a student for a year, took it into court and won: the court demanded the school return the property to the students, and when they failed to do so because they had already thrown everything away, each teacher involved was arrested and the school district was forced to pay each family back the cost of the merchandise.
Therefore, while the child in definitely in the wrong for physically harming the teacher, the teacher is also in the wrong for their theft they called "confiscation". If the child doesn't want to pay attention in class and would rather read comics, then let him. That's their decision, and if they end up failing and having to repeat a grade, it'll be their own fault and will hopefully teach them not to make the same mistake again.
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potatochobit
Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:23 am
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sometimes you just have to read the next chapter
just blame it on hitagi
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Wildar
Joined: 21 Apr 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:25 am
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jmaeshawn wrote: | While I don't condone the student's behavior, even as a child, I have always felt that a teacher shouldn't engage in "confiscation" of a student's property, as it is simply a thin disguise for theft.
Back when I was in elementary school, teachers would often confiscate students trading cards, books, toys, etc. with no intention to ever return them. A group of us, along with our parents, all got together and started recording each and every time a teacher stole-er, confiscated property from a student for a year, took it into court and won: the court demanded the school return the property to the students, and when they failed to do so because they had already thrown everything away, each teacher involved was arrested and the school district was forced to pay each family back the cost of the merchandise.
Therefore, while the child in definitely in the wrong for physically harming the teacher, the teacher is also in the wrong for their theft they called "confiscation". If the child doesn't want to pay attention in class and would rather read comics, then let him. That's their decision, and if they end up failing and having to repeat a grade, it'll be their own fault and will hopefully teach them not to make the same mistake again. |
Yes and when the kids get bad grades the parents will whine about why the teacher didn't do anything and let them fail. You aren't allowed to just let kids fail, that's how you get yourself fired.
To me that just sounds like teachers confiscated things the kids shouldn't have had in the first place, the kids (and knowing parents by the sound of it) then didn't actually try and get it back after school, eventually it was disposed of because no one came to retrieve it. Saying teachers 'steal' stuff is implying they confiscate your DS do they can take it home and play Mario.
You screwed over a lot of teachers by making their jobs harder in the first place, then not even bothering to get your stuff back and getting them arrested o_O
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eurotrip1986
Joined: 01 Jun 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:43 am
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StormSky92 wrote: | THIS JUST IN: MANGA MAKES KIDS VIOLENT
I wonder how many times that news story is going to get around in the next few days. |
Well were not exactly going to blame the actual problem. You know those useless parents lol.
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faintsmile1992
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:48 am
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Many teachers are jerks, so stop white knighting for 'em as an entire profession, cause the bit about staff confiscating property and not returning it afterwards is dead right. I'm not saying there aren't good teachers but WTF as a profession they suck the same as with other authority figures.
Did school staff do anything to stop kids bullying one another when I was there? No. They didn't do their job but what kind of wage did they get for teaching?
There's a lot of goody two shoes on this forum, I stabbed a teacher with a pen once, but it wasn't for confiscation of property though, they were just pissing me off. (Confiscation of minor items was funny, I turned it into a show in front of the class, made the teacher look small and ridiculous like most such 'authority figures' usually are.)
I guess to have made him want to stab someone ten times, she must have really made him blow his top.
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Polycell
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:13 am
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eurotrip1986 wrote: | Woo I'll carry my guns, if you got a pen, and I win! |
Within twenty-one feet or so stabby implements win out over firearms. Since I'm pretty sure most classrooms aren't twenty-one feet long, you'd be in the process of getting penned before you could point the gun at the kid.
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tubers
Joined: 23 Jun 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:46 am
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faintsmile1992 wrote: | Many teachers are jerks, so stop white knighting for 'em as an entire profession, cause the bit about staff confiscating property and not returning it afterwards is dead right. I'm not saying there aren't good teachers but WTF as a profession they suck the same as with other authority figures.
Did school staff do anything to stop kids bullying one another when I was there? No. They didn't do their job but what kind of wage did they get for teaching?
There's a lot of goody two shoes on this forum, I stabbed a teacher with a pen once, but it wasn't for confiscation of property though, they were just pissing me off. (Confiscation of minor items was funny, I turned it into a show in front of the class, made the teacher look small and ridiculous like most such 'authority figures' usually are.)
I guess to have made him want to stab someone ten times, she must have really made him blow his top. |
There are also many who aren't.
The teacher must have done something so ridiculous that pissed you off enough for you to stab him or her with a pen.
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Vata Raven
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:09 am
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Good for the teacher on taking the manga, but the bloody brat didn't have to stab the teacher for doing so.
Honestly, they don't take it because they "want" to, it does distract other students, the student isn't paying attention to the class (mostly causing them to have grades drop). And at my school, they had it in the rulebook saying the teachers can take items, BUT the student can get the item back if ONLY the parent comes to get the item. They don't keep them because they want to, it's a form of punishment. And it would seem a lot of kids lack that these days and common sense.
Don't make the teacher's job even harder then it has to be, plain and simple. Go to school, pay attention in class, and do your work...it's that simple, and the teacher will think your an angel and wish everyone else was like that. And don't be a brat to a bus driver, either. These people are just doing their job, not sure why some kids are brats and give them hell.
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