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2Real



Joined: 12 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:24 pm Reply with quote
Ok, here it is.

I haven't read a manga, ever.

I have been a big fan of anime for years and have started to see a few of the animes that I realy liked origanated from a manga. Other then that i dont know too much about these books.

I'll start by throwing out a few questions.

1) Can i get manga at any comic book store ( other then the internet) in my town?

2) Are mangas translated into English, and if so is part of the story, humor, drama, and all around effect of the story, lost with that?

3) What are some mangas that haven't been made into a anime that are realy good ones that I might like?

Examples of animes that I like:
-Bleach
-Hellsing
-Beserk
-Elfen Laid
-Serial Experiments Lain
-Samurai 7
-Samurai Deeper Kyo

4) what is the avrage cost of a manga?
I know that some have like 20 and others have like 200 pages to them. I'm woundering about a series that has 1 manga a mounth or 2 ( dont know the lengh of the manga for I'm new to them sorry). Basicly just give an avrage for a few different lenghs of manga please.

Thanks to all who post their oppinions and recomendations.
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Dranxis



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:07 pm Reply with quote
1) Actually, you should be able to find manga at any bookstore, though comic book stores are an option as well. Barnes and Noble, Waldenbooks, and Borders especially carry large selections of manga.

2) Yes, manga is translated into English. Whether or not it loses something in the translation varies from title to title. Most translations now though are more than adequate, though I'd watch out for editing (in one extreme case, Tenjou Tenge).

4) Each manga costs somewhere from 7.95-9.99. Length of series varies greatly. For example, a typical shojo title might be under 8 volumes, while a popular shonen title might be well over thirty. Animeondvd.com has a very handy "Manga Comparison" chart where you can look up series lengths.

As for recommendations, I'll leave that to the others. Wink
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Aromatic Grass



Joined: 31 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:37 pm Reply with quote
Dranxis wrote:
4) Each manga costs somewhere from 7.95-9.99.


It's true most manga you will be interested in have this general price range. However, DelRey manga is usually $11.99, and if you want to read Hellsing (since you liked the anime) from DarkHorse, that's $13.99. If you want to be fancy, Ghost in the Shell is $24.95.
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darkhunter



Joined: 13 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:49 pm Reply with quote
2Real wrote:


Examples of animes that I like:
-Bleach
-Hellsing
-Beserk
-Elfen Laid
-Serial Experiments Lain
-Samurai 7
-Samurai Deeper Kyo



For samurai manga, you can't go around with Vagabond or Blade of the Immortal. These are some of the best samurai-type stories you will read. Lone Wolf and Cub is also good, but I don't recommend it to new shonen readers.

Other than that, you can always check out the Best Manga release for 2005.

There's King of Wolves, which is a pretty good (not great) one-shot story if you're looking for something similar to Berserk.
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2Real



Joined: 12 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:24 pm Reply with quote
Aromatic Grass wrote:
It's true most manga you will be interested in have this general price range. However, DelRey manga is usually $11.99, and if you want to read Hellsing (since you liked the anime) from DarkHorse, that's $13.99. If you want to be fancy, Ghost in the Shell is $24.95.



I noticed you mentioned Ghost in the Shell and Hellsing ( I also noted the price of Ghost in the Shell), but the real reason i bring this up is that i have watched the shows. So why would I want to read the manga if i have seen the show?

Is there realy that much a difference in how the stories are told, between the anime and manga versions? I know that asking this is kind of stupid since i read Lord of the Ring and saw the movie and while they did a good job with the movie it has nothing to the book itself. Is this the same with manga to anime titles?
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Tony K.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:34 pm Reply with quote
2Real wrote:
Is there realy that much a difference in how the stories are told, between the anime and manga versions?

Yes. Manga are sometimes capitalized upon their popularity and made into anime, but the manga are sometimes not complete, and you get what's called "filler."

In the case of Hellsing, I haven't read the manga myself, but the anime goes in a different route around the time of the Valentine brothers. The Incognito arc never happened, and instead you get something called the "Millennium arc" that has to do with Nazi vampires(?).

Manga to anime transitions can sometimes leave out or add extra characters, events, etc. I hold manga in high regard because they're usually the origin of the story itself, so it's nice to see everything in their entirety. Although, the only manga I've actually been collecting is Rurouni Kenshin, which I highly recommend since you seem to be into samurai/swordsmen type titles.
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marie-antoinette



Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:44 pm Reply with quote
Typically, even when anime follows the storyline very closely, the manga usually has more (as long as it came first, that is). My own experience has been that manga does a better job with character development than anime, while anime is better with action scenes, because they can move and all.

So usually if you like an anime a lot, at least looking at the manga is worth it. Sometimes you might even want to get it, despite the similarities (I have almost all the Fushigi Yuugi manga and that anime is the closest adaptation I have ever seen, anime or otherwise).

And I don't know much about Hellsing, but I know that the manga is VERY different.
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Kagemusha



Joined: 20 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:30 pm Reply with quote
1. Depends on the comicbook store. Most of them carry manga, but certain ones carry more. Bookstores usually have selections, but those are often limited to shonen and shojo titles.

2.Depends on the translator. While some are exellent, many have been horrible. Generally, the quality has gone up over the last year, but you'll find the best translations from Darkhorse and Vi'z Editors Choice line.

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I noticed you mentioned Ghost in the Shell and Hellsing ( I also noted the price of Ghost in the Shell), but the real reason i bring this up is that i have watched the shows. So why would I want to read the manga if i have seen the show?

Don't bother with GitS (if you want Shirow's best work, go for Appleseed), as it's inferior to the movie, but if you liked the Hellsing anime you'll probobly love the manga, as instead of that lame Incognito Alucard fights (and is still fighting) psycho nazis.
I'll second the Blade of the Immortal recommendation. Much, much better than the Samurai Deeper Kyo manga, with exellent characters and masterful writing. Since the Berserk manga continues after the anime's ending, you'll probobly want to pick that one up as well. I can't really think of too many lain-like titles that are currently published in the US, so I'll get back to you on that one.
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Dranxis



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:53 pm Reply with quote
Actually, there was a top 10 thread a page or two back. Here 'tis.

animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17929

Anyway, my personal favorites are pretty mundane, being Inu-Yasha, Excel Saga, and Naruto. Though I believe the most powerful manga I've ever read is Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. Just a very engrossing and epic story with plenty of material for discussion and varying interpretations, especially concerning the ending.
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Digital Dreamer



Joined: 21 Dec 2005
Posts: 287
Location: Sydney, Australia
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:58 am Reply with quote
2Real wrote:

Examples of animes that I like:
-Bleach
-Hellsing
-Beserk
-Elfen Laid
-Serial Experiments Lain
-Samurai 7
-Samurai Deeper Kyo


2Real,
You might want to pick up Blade of the Immortal as you seem to be interested in Samuria.

Beserk is going to be useful as the manga continue where the anime just stopped.

Ghost In The Shell Manga. It different enough from the anime TV series that it worth while picking up. Personally i don't like picking up manga when it's the same events (or close to) as the anime.

Battle Angel Alita is a must have. The orginal series which has been completed. However there is Battle Angel Alita: Last Order with is an alteritive ending.

Kagemusha wrote:
(if you want Shirow's best work, go for Appleseed),

My goodness, i finally meet another person that beleives that.
Appleseed is a much better read that Ghost In The Shell. My main problem with GITS and especially GITS2 manga series is that shirow is drowning the reader with his technobabble which is fictional.
Appleseed might have some technobabble in it, but at least then we was refering to technology with is currently in development.
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Joined: 02 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:26 pm Reply with quote
Death Note is a good manga. Volume 5 comes out in May. Even though they rate it T+ and they act like it has to do with killing people it really doesn't. it's mostly about the main character (Raito (japanese)/ Light (english)) trying not to get caught after he kills a bunch of criminals, trying to rid the world of evil. It's very interesting. It really doesn't show many of the deaths, except for testing the power of the Death Note or when Light is watching it happen. The art is excellent, and the shinigami are really cool. Especially Gelus.
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Larrix



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:46 pm Reply with quote
1) You can find manga at almost every comicbook/bookstore. Even Barns and Noble.You can even buy them on E-Bay, Amazon, and every Manga/Anime website like Toyopop.com.

2) And "Dranxis" is right
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Yes, manga is translated into English. Whether or not it loses something in the translation varies from title to title. Most translations now though are more than adequate, though I'd watch out for editing (in one extreme case, Tenjou Tenge).


3) Well i've heard Bleach is now an aime in japan and it is almost here in the states. The same with Hellsing. And all so I have heard of one Anime/Manga title called Trigun which became an anime first then became manga.

4) At most stores the manga ranges around $5.00 to around $10.00, but online the manga is always around $10.00

And manga length verys differently. Heh, depending upon the creator and the production company.
And it's okay that your new, so am I.Anime catgrin
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:21 pm Reply with quote
Again Larrix, please do not revive old threads. Thank you.
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