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afrothunder75
Joined: 23 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:03 am
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Is anyone as confused as me.
[discussion thread for Paranoia Agent. In the future, NO ONE-LINERS. -b]
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AnimeLord
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:07 pm
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i understand, if you missed an episode then you might not understand
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msi435
Joined: 29 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:05 pm
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afrothunder75 wrote: | Is anyone as confused as me. |
What are you confused about?
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samuraiwalt
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:38 pm
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Based on the audio commentary I think Satoshi Kon and Seishi Minakami were confused when they made it.
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.Sy
Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:43 pm
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That one episode where the person caught as lil' slugger confesses and the story goes into "video game mode" made me wonder what state the staff in while they were producing it. Sleep deprived maybe? And where in the world did the producers come up with the charatcer Maromi? I've never seen any character like it.
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Ohoni
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:00 pm
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Tare Panda.
Anyways, yeah, the series is odd, but the idea is that every character is borderline crazy, so each vinette highlights the craziness in their own lives (including "pseudo slugger"). I don't know if I really enjoy this series, but it certainly is interesting.
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Stylez025
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:01 pm
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Its getting good right now with it going back to serious. I was seriously turned off when that "video game" part was shown, it seemed kind of out of place for the show. But now its back to its darker mysterious side
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:55 pm
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Stylez025 wrote: | Its getting good right now with it going back to serious. I was seriously turned off when that "video game" part was shown, it seemed kind of out of place for the show. But now its back to its darker mysterious side |
just so you know, the next 3 are filler episodes, but they're REALLY GOOD filler episodes. i think a lot of people will love love 8.
and trust me, if you'e been paying attention, the whole series will make sense at the end.
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scorpioEDC
Joined: 31 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:25 pm
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I am not sure whether the director himself can make any sense out of this series.
Is the destruction of the city by those black stuffs, goo, ashes or whatever (using it to symbolize a riot in the city?) at the end of the series a reality or illusion?
I don't like to see more Animes going into this kind of confusing approach. Trying overboard to pretend having created an intelligent story is simply not a good story telling.
From what I have seen, here are some shows that eventually fall into this trap of confusion:
1. The Matrix Revolution(although it is a movie not an anime)
2. Texhnolyze
3. Evangelion
Recently, I see another shows which looks likely to fall into the same trap again - Killer 7 (although it is a game not an anime).
Perfect Blue and Lain are fine to me but Paranoia Agent is too much.
Just an opinion.
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ananda
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:22 am
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Stylez025 wrote: | Its getting good right now with it going back to serious. I was seriously turned off when that "video game" part was shown, it seemed kind of out of place for the show. But now its back to its darker mysterious side |
I absolutely enjoyed the "Video-game" episode, I can't remember the real title of the episode.
Anyways, I thought it was quite interesting and funny!!!
True, it wasn't nearly as dark as the other episodes, but that didn't bother me at all; I liked that it was different.
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The Frankman
Joined: 19 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:01 pm
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I was told that this was a weighted series, but right now Perfect Blue was more enjoyable than this. I mean the shock value is nice but outside of the threads slowly forming I would strongly hope to see more in the next couple eps.
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Key
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:10 pm
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As others have said, there isn't much of anything for plot development in episodes 8-10; those are all about showing how the Lil' Slugger phenomenon has spread. Each of those episodes, taken individually, is quite good, but not until episode 11 is the plot advanced.
And the series does finish really, really strong.
Final thought for those who haven't seen it yet: you have to watch the scenes near the end of episode 8 VERY carefully. There are some subtle but very important artistic details in the parking lot scene that can be easily overlooked, and the episode will make less sense if you don't catch them.
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chapel382
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:36 pm
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is that why the one episode with the three people trying to kill them selves made no realy connection to anything.
i dont git it were they already dead??????
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Slayer
Joined: 19 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:55 pm
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I have not seen most of the series but I have had the chance to catch about 4 episodes, along with Samarai Champloo (which I really like by the way) and I wasnt really all THAT confused. I have seen many animes like this so I tend to not "overthink" alot of the things that shouldnt be "overthunk".....i had to say that word.
I dont get around to watching anime any more because I spend too much time playing guitar and jammin' with my band. But I really enjoy Paranoia Agent as well as Samarai Champloo. I will have to check the dvds out later or catch a few more episodes on adult swim
man its been a while since I've posted on these forums
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DKL
Joined: 08 May 2005
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Location: California, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:31 pm
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dang, we need to organize this thread first before moving on, it's completely spoiler laden
anyway, I'm just gonna go skip over all the comments and just answer the questions about things straight... I'm kinda tired, but now I feel like injecting insight... here we go *err... gonna double post*
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