Forum - View topicNoir? Is that, like, French? [And an OT liquistics disc.]
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jmays
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Quote o' the night: "I searched for 'Noir' on Yahoo, but I kept getting all these French websites!"
-Miagi |
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Cgoten
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I don't know French, but I believe it means black in French.
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jmays
ANN Past Staff
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Yes, I know that =) T'was a joke.
-Miagi |
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radicaledward
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What dose the french quote mean? The "Le noir..." - something like that I'm hoping that you know what I mean (If not it's on the bottom of the box for collecting the set in). I'm just wondering becuase my french is non-existant.
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Aya Reiko
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Magister_L
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this reminds me of the thread about if the word anime had a french origin
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Aurora
Posts: 64 Location: Ontario Canada |
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Le noir= The black.... I dunno the rest of the quote, or I'd try to translate it for you. In Canada, they force you to learn the language....
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Dark Nero
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force??? haha I learned it willingly.
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Tempest
 I Run this place.ANN Publisher  Posts: 10474 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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Uhm, they force you to learn English in the States (unfortunately not very well in many cases). Many parts of Canada are officially billingual (and Quebec is officially francophone), so yes, many Canadians are "forced" to learn French. I'll take a look at my copy of Noir later and translate what it says... |
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Tempest
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OKay, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense...
"Black, this word designates, since a remote time, the name of destiny. The two virgins reign over death. Black hands protect the peace of the newborn children." This is a farily literal translation, I didn't bother to clean it up and make the English version sound as morosely poetic as the French one does. |
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Tempest
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LOL! OTOH, Noir is quite popular in France right now, who knows, he might have been getting french websites about Noir. |
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cookie
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Actually, no. The US has no official language. While (American) English is the standard language spoken by the widest segment of the population, there is a growing Spanish language population. Somewhere along the way, I heard an estimate that by 2050 more of California could be speaking Spanish as a primary language than English (IIRC). So, in 50 years kids might be speaking poor Spanish, instead of poor English. ;) |
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Cassandra
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*blink* When I went to school, they taught English. Then when you reached about 8th or 9th grade, you had the option of learning another language (French or Spanish, in my day). So...since you have to take English from Grade 1 up through college, I would say that that is "forcing" one to learn English. (And yes, Tempest is right. They don't always teach English very well.) |
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cookie
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Ah, so you spoke nothing until Kindergarten, did you? ;) We come to school -knowing- English. Sure, it might not be perfect, but the English we learn in school really does not change HOW we speak to any great degree. Some can even read and write before going to school. School "English" classes are where we analyze literature, compose poetry, and learn how to read and write "proper" English.. it might be better to call it an "English literature" course, rather than an English -language- course. We already show up to class knowing how to speak the language, and how we speak is rarely incorrect except in the most minor of ways. When we learn a second language (particularly in HS and beyond) the class is dedicated to the study of the language, and is much less about literature and poetry... and much more about how to simply read, speak, and write the language. |
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Cassandra
Posts: 1356 Location: Birdsboro, PA |
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I'm not saying I wasn't speaking by the time I was in kindergarten. I'm saying that we go to school and learn English. We aren't born knowing every meaning to every word in the English language. The only reason we can speak early is because children mimic what they hear. (Trust me...one year old...so far we got Daddy, Mommy and Baby since those are the words she hears most often.) Learning new words in school drastically changes how we speak. (Hence why we aren't on here saying "Cookie no speak" or something.) It's not until much later that you learn poetry and analyzing things. (Unless you consider breaking down a word into it's root forms to figure out the meaning to be analyzing.) It's not like you are in second grade learning about literature. You're learning the language...what words mean, how to pronounce them properly, how to use them grammatically, how to spell them properly. It's not until junior high/high school age where you start with literary works. Writing poetry and whatnot. When we show up in kindergarten, we have a very basic grasp on the language....mostly just enough to get our needs across. When we learn a second language, it's like going right back to first grade. |
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