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DeSo
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If this gains alot of press and somehow gives the vibe off that "its easy", then its only a matter of time before both japanese and domestic distributors start cracking down more on BT indexing sites.
Now anime existed before the age of "digisubs", but you gotta admit that without alot of digisubs alot of animes would never of gotten off the ground. Love Hina's domesitc releases would of sucked. Anime is all about word of mouth, unlike in japan where you get to see stuff on TV then buy it on DVD. We only have DVD/VHS releases, which makes it like 'shooting in the dark, with the cover art as your guide'. Funsubs are a slippery slope, i hope this is not the begening of the end. Flame if you want, thats just my thought on all this jazz. |
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Ignition
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As long as their only concern is movies right now.....
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cyrax777
 Posts: 1825 Location: the desert |
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psst Digisubs were around before bittorrent.
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Beatdigga
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One domino falls, the others soon follow. |
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Ignition
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one day at a time, I'll only be worried after it happens
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Stueypark
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It's not like we're in the days when anime got aquired because the companies had to select what titles to bring over, it's become such a large market 99% of titles are brought over anyway, many of which, the deals are created before anyone even sees a digisub of it.
And in reality, what's really the difference between copying a movie and copying someone's Social Security number? Neither one is "stealing" per se (nothing changes hands), but both can result in serious financial problems. |
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JackBassV
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The phrase "Bolting the Door after the horse has bolted" comes to mind :p
Most of the Anime that I download will never reach these shores (England). Actually, most won't leave Japan at all. A lot of Anime gets passed over because it's not "Commercial" enough. Strangely it's this un-commercial anime that I like. They can ban US films and music from BT if they like. I don't buy them anyway. But I buy Anime DVD's (mostly from the US) if a series I like comes out in either country. |
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UltimaShadowfax
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Damn first the Media Factory thing, now this.
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radicaledward
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Well Hollywood can what it to happen all they want to - but it's not going to happen. The BitTorrent algorithm is open source, so anyone that can program can write a client and tracker, and it already has an established legal use.
As some of you may know, BitTorrent was originally written to make the distribution of Linux distros easier. It has served that purpose in flying colors, and recently it has caught on for other uses as well - some of you that Beta tested World of Warcraft may know that the download client was a BitTorrent program. About the only thing that Hollywood can do is go after the media tracker sites - but they will just move outside of the US, and drive the US sites more underground - net result is that the spend alot of money and accomplish nothing. |
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beelzebozo
 Posts: 308 Location: Aurora, Colorado |
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To be frank, I'm not suprised, and it looks like it may stick a little better. Unlike web-hosts and the like, there seems to be some level of selection in the process of hosting Bittorrent links, so they may be libel.
I'm suprised the software companies weren't at this first. You know how many programs I've seen on Bittorrent sites? I think it's the fans' own greed that has sealed their fate on this. If they actually used fansubs to preview anime and then turned around and deleted them when they decide to buy or if they decide not to, then it wouldn't be such a problem. But I've run into too many fans who don't care if it's downloaded or bootlegged as long as it is cheap or free. (And I can hear the chorus of "not me! I don't do that!" starting... about... NOW!) |
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Darkener
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The problem with this isn't that MPAA is going after the tracker sites, it is that they aren't fixing the problem and changing to what the market wants today... If you were able to download (buy a viewing for 'x' amount of dollars) new movies that were just released in theaters movie companies would make even more money today. I'm a bit surpised at why they haven't done it yet since, they would take in all the money instead of part of it going to theater owners (for showing the film...) plus they would earn more profit since their is less over head for someone paying to see a movie online instead of the theater. Of course it wouldn't end people to go see movies in the theater but sometimes it would be nice to see a new movie at home... but that is just me.
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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Whether or not there is the concern about whether it's used to distribute fansubs, software, or other means very little. With the right legal arguments, it could also be considered a means of disseminating information. It's much like the RIAA (previously, till they found ways of making money with it) wanting to ban MP3's.
It eventually can reach a point where it could be considered infringing on First Amendment Rights. I'm not saying that there aren't people who won't abuse the heck out of the program, but it's virtually impossible to make a program illegal itself because it then starts infringing on people's rights. After all, let's say I write up a report or program and send it to several people via Bittorrent. It's a legitamate use and not in violation of copyright in that case. It becomes even more apparent if I make a voice recording into MP3 format and release it that way to others. I'm not an expert in the field of legal arguments surrounding electronic media, etc, but I can only see it as an uphill legal battle from my limited perspective. |
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vherub
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i would rather see a concerted effort towards cracking done on the distribution of bootlegs, specifically those coming through ebay. They are far more damaging to the industry both in diverting sales and also causing confusion to consumers- especially those new to anime.
i dont see bt as lost revenue so much as it is free advertising. there are 3 types of downloaders: those who dl to test the water and may later buy, those who dl who never had any intention of buying and those that dl as an alternative to buying. I see the first group as being potentially far more enriching than the minority third group. |
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hikura
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Man they are busting down on all the programs that are used by people today.
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Stueypark
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The companies aren't targeting Bit Torrent as an application, they are targeting the sites which keep tabs and pass on links on where to dowload that company's copyrighted stuff.
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