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Lann
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:40 pm
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Damn it, i was so excited reading this until i read the bit that says it would be set during the Edo period, as a part of the Chotto Edo Made series. bummer. Oh well should be good all the same!
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CareyGrant
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:05 pm
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Yeah! Wait... Edo?
I've never forgiven Gainax for not finishing the anime.
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Rukiia
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:29 pm
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CareyGrant wrote: | I've never forgiven Gainax for not finishing the anime. |
I've forgiven them, but still wish they would give the series a proper ending.
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Lann
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:33 pm
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It wasn't their fault, the manga was unfinished at the time. Though it would be great if they could finish it off now, despite the probable episode count pushing 52 episodes.
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Kit-Tsukasa
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:01 pm
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There's really no need for this. The franchise was good as is. I don't see any reason to add any more to it except having a "remake" or "proper finale" of the anime
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Sailor S
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:12 pm
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I've always read that Masami Tsuda did not like how Gainax handled the anime adaptation, so she was highly against them doing any more than they did. But, I never really bothered to look too in depth into that, so I take it with a grain of salt. Anyways, I didn't really care for how Gainax went about with the ending. They took a normal story and tried to Gainax it up to make it weirder than it needed to be. I'm happy with the manga, and the anime can be filed in the same category that a lot of fans file the Umineko anime.
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lys
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:40 pm
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Kit-Tsukasa wrote: | There's really no need for this. The franchise was good as is. I don't see any reason to add any more to it except having a "remake" or "proper finale" of the anime |
Aw, it's just for fun! And maybe promo for the rerelease of the manga, to get readers nostalgic and/or curious. I'm a fan of the original series, and would really love to see her current series brought to English, so this sounds great. I'll have to track this issue of LaLa down...
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Lann
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:41 pm
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I have to say, I find Kare Kano to be THE most faithful anime adaptation of a manga series. I never understood why people thought Gainax were taking it in a different direction. It's almost word for word perfect with the manga, but with a tiny bit more comedy thrown in, and one interesting story for Yukino's sisters, which is fine by me. If Gainax continued it, I'm sure they would realise how heavily important it would be to NOT use comedy during the Arima arc.
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Wiesteria
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:13 pm
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Lann wrote: | I have to say, I find Kare Kano to be THE most faithful anime adaptation of a manga series. I never understood why people thought Gainax were taking it in a different direction. It's almost word for word perfect with the manga, but with a tiny bit more comedy thrown in, and one interesting story for Yukino's sisters, which is fine by me. If Gainax continued it, I'm sure they would realise how heavily important it would be to NOT use comedy during the Arima arc. |
I agree. I even used to joke that the anime was just moving manga images, since the director liked putting in so many black-and-white manga-ish scenes. Furthermore, I would rather they not continue the anime since I am certain it follow the manga ending and I completely hated it. The ending took every bit of slice-of-life realism that was in the series and stuffed it in a shredder.
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escahime65
Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:33 pm
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Kare Kano is one of my all time favorite mangas so anything new sounds great to me. It might even add more spice if it's set in a different time period. That it's only a one-shot makes me sad.
As for the anime, I hated it because there was no ending, the art was terrible, it followed the manga pages too closely, and kept repeating over and over how they met. Anime is supposed to improve on the original or at least give a different take on it, but this failed miserably.
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Kruszer
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:29 pm
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I was excited for a while until I read what form it would take. Now I can't say I care too much about some cameo appearance in another manga that doesn't continue the storyline. Not like it needs continuation anyway since they manga did a pretty good job of wrapping things up.....unlike the anime....
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:55 pm
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Lann wrote: | It wasn't their fault, the manga was unfinished at the time. Though it would be great if they could finish it off now, despite the probable episode count pushing 52 episodes. |
I heard several years ago that the Gainax ran out of money for the show and wasn't able to finish it. Budget restraints aren't always a cause of a show being cancelled/dropped, but almost never ever help a series out.
The lower the budget, the more short cuts, quality and occasionally quantity are effected. But even with high budget shows, there is always the chance a company could take short cuts as well.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:19 am
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Rukiia wrote: |
CareyGrant wrote: | I've never forgiven Gainax for not finishing the anime. |
I've forgiven them, but still wish they would give the series a proper ending. |
They can't. Gainax and the mangaka had irreconcilable differences: Gainax played up the comedic aspect, while the mangaka wanted the more serious aspect. And then the whole Director Hideaki Anno resigning fiasco leading into the last unfinished story arc in the anime.
Too bad. When their first volume anime fansub premiered at Otakon all those years ago, it got a standing ovation at the end.
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Shwiggie
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:33 am
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Whatever the reasons, using three recap episodes and half of at least two other episodes for recap in addition to the sudden screeching stop in the last episode is evidence of piss-poor planning on someone's part. Maybe they could have waited until there were a couple more volumes to draw from before starting out. But who knows the ins-and-outs of these sorts of things?
More's the pity, as it ranks as one of my most favorite anime series of all time. I personally hope, however, that no one ever picks it up to animate again (as if it'd ever happen in a million years, anyway), as I feel that the story had pretty much petered out soon after that point, anyway. Once it moved focus onto how genuinely messed up Arima's background was, I quickly lost interest.
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pachy_boy
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:11 pm
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Rukiia wrote: |
CareyGrant wrote: | I've never forgiven Gainax for not finishing the anime. |
I've forgiven them, but still wish they would give the series a proper ending. |
I was loving the Anime up until the end where it literally just left everything hanging in the air. It was too bad, since the art and the series in general was so gorgeous. It didn't even try to have its own conclusion like the Fruits Basket anime did.
So I read the manga and--was let down another way, perhaps a worse way. I realize the story had its dark moments all along, but toward the end everything just fell apart. No matter how you interpret it, Arima had raped Yukino. Even if it's just a fantasy, any rape of any degree completely shatters the romance story for me and is inexcusable. It was just too much when guns were involved, and Yukino keeps one in hand in a playful manner at the end. And their daughter growing up to be the bride of Arima's friend in the long run, something that said friend had kind of planned? That was really too much, and not sweet so much as it is twisted
So for me, Kare Kano is one of those series that was so wonderful at first before it seriously devolves itself. I'd like to think the Anime covers all those wonderful moments before it happens, but where it just stops itself will always remain awkward.
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