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Heart of the Foreign God
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the character design from red hood was fresh, full of potential and personality and it is really a shame how easily it got axed.
the worst part is keeping in mind it could happen to any other new series you start reading |
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Beatdigga
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One could make the argument that such a brutal meritocracy is the only way to ensure quality, but that’s cold comfort to fans of the material and the authors. Not to mention how many stories that need time to find their voice and never can.
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meiam
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I imagine the "secret ingredient" to understanding why some series get the axe and other survive, that the audience is completely obvious to, is the author personality/work style. Some author probably constantly need to be managed, suck a lot of time and energy from the editors and burn trough assistants while other probably require little to no maintenance, deliver on time and require almost no time from the editors.
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absent
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oof... |
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LoriasGS
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The mindset that allows me to accept it is remembering that that series I loved that got axed only had it's shot in the first place because something else got axed to make room for it. And then thiking what series will get it's chance next because the one I liked was dropped.
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malvarez1
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As someone who has followed Jump for years, I thought this was an impressively well written and level headed take. There are a lot of people on Twitter who need to read this.
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FilthyCasual
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I'm surprised that there wasn't a single word gleefully shredding axed works. I thought for sure there'd be shots fired at dreck like Earthchild.
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Minos_Kurumada
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Talking about Hero Academia, Horikoshi had 2 mayor works before: Ōmagadoki Dōbutsuen and Sensei no Baruji.
The first one ran for 5 vols. while the second one ran for 2, both of them were really good and I was sure Baruji would become big but didn't, HeroAca was born from the learned lessons of these 2. But, the big kahuna of axed series in Jump its Psyren. Psyren ran for 16 vols. An extremely interesting piece that combined isekai with time travel and psychic powers with mystery, it has it's popularity even today. Since it ran for a while it didn't have a disastrous sudden ending, I mean, it was rushed but it also explained everything very well and most questions had their answers. If you can, read it. |
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onpufan
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It's a harsh method but I do think it's for the best in the end. You can't argue with the results. The stuff that survive end up pulling in the numbers and popularity. |
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Soulwarfare
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Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons why I don't read Shonen jump manga's until I am confident that it is good enough to be safe from AXE.
I don't want to read a series that doesn't get a proper conclusion |
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MagicPolly
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I Tell C was the first series I loved that got cancelled, but anyone with a brain could see that coming from a mile away, it was just a personal favorite. PPPPPP really hurt because it seemed like it was safe, and then all of a sudden in chapter 60 the plot scrambled in all sorts of directions and it was only a matter of time before the ending was announced.
PPPPPP could have really benefitted from an anime adaptation too, from the fact that we'd be able to hear the piano to the animation effects that could have been used. The volume PVs teased too much. At least Mapollo-3 said he's already working on his next series, hopefully it'll be at a different magazine because I don't see him getting too lucky (ha) with surviving in WSJ again. It really is interesting how the non battle series seem to be the most successful recently. I really do wonder what happened to the Ruri Dragon author, he dropped the most successful WSJ manga in a long time and then fell off the face of the earth. I hope he's ok |
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Heishi
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Such a shame Red Hood got axed, yet something like Black Clover continues to thrive.
Give me tall, muscular women over annoying, overused, violent tsunderes any day of the week. |
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ZelosZoidberg
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Cho_Desu
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Perhaps I'm just missing something, but would it be that impossible for Shonen Jump to simply move the axed series to their app, if the manga-ka would like to finish their story in some decent capacity? Some of the more niche stories or those with a smaller but devoted fanbase (or simply an overseas fanbase, as the case may be) could surely find some decent success through volume sales over time.
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Hagaren Viper
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One of the more frustrating things about seeing in real time how cutthroat WSJ is is knowing that there's basically no way to do anything about it outside of Japan - even if you exclusively read X series on the SJ app the day it releases, it doesn't seem to actually translate to support for the series. I'm not sure if Red Hood exactly exploded in the US but it did feel like there was noteworthy support for it even as the story took some questionable turns. Really makes me wonder if things would be different if US readership actually mattered for anything.
Absolute pipe dream, but since it seemed to have better readership outside of Japan, it would be interesting if they were to make a movie out of the first few chapters to capitalize on that - maybe Netflix produced since they too like cancelling things. Realistically there's no reason for them to try that, but it would be a nice consolation prize. It really is a bummer seeing so many interesting series get dropped - on one hand, it is completely fair to drop a series whose readership isn't strong and that can lead to something with a stronger readership coming in - but on the other hand, I've finally been getting into JJBA and while Phantom Blood is fine, Phantom Blood is where the series really starts to both make it's own identity while simultaneously building on everything that came before it. I won't pretend that I know anything about Shonen Jump/Jojos in 1987 or that the magazine isn't more competitive now than it was then, but can't help but imagine what if Jojos was cancelled in it's first arc and it wasn't able to blossom into what it is now? How many of the cancelled series could have really started shining with just a bit more time? It's all hypothetical but they're some frustrating hypotheticals.
I would imagine among other things it's a matter of money - plus they end up cancelling so many manga that they would probably have to cap the number of authors they supported in this way, which would likely lead to a repeat situation of the main magazine. |
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