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MagicPolly
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This is really sad to see, PPPPPP had such a unique story and amazing artwork and it's sad that it didn't even get a decent ending. The last chapter just sort of flounders in existentialism for a while and ends on a cliffhanger. In retrospect the cancellation was obvious after spoiler[the mom suddenly died, getting rid of the main motivation for the plot] but the announcement still hit me like a truck.
Hopefully Mapollo3 comes out with a new series at some point, his first two one shots were really interesting and I'd love to see what else he could do. |
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Soulwarfare
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Another one bites the dust
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JoelBurger
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Lasted way too long, so many better series deserved the amount of chapters this sludge got.
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SHD
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This is one of those that I felt was simply not a good fit for Jump, especially WSJ, and maybe it ended up also suffering from the mangaka and the editor trying to mold the story into one that is more "Jump-esque"... it's times like these that I wonder what a manga could've been like in another magazine. Then again, maybe it would've been similar with similar issues, and would have ended up being cancelled anyway.
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Wyvern
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The series was so unique for Jump, I'm pleasantly surprised that it lasted two and a half years. (EDIT: Turns out it was actually one and a half, which is still pretty good for such an offbeat manga given how quickly Jump cancels series these days.) But it seems like it still ended with more story left to tell, which is a shame. I'm sure this isn't the last we'll see of Mapollo 3, though.
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lossthief
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Slight correction to the article: the series began in September of 2021, not 2020.
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harminia
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I need to catch up with it but I enjoyed this manga and it was quite different. I was pleasantly surprised it lasted as long as it did... I look forward to the mangaka's future works.
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KarlFranz
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But the mom's lifespan already got a hard limit from the start and because the series follow real-life musical's competitions schedule, everyone can tell when the mom is going to die. Also the main motivation is still about the MC reconcile with his siblings. |
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Lizzie_B
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I'm getting 'Spongebob Standard' vibes from WSJ ngl. Like if the manga isn't a super hit like OP or MHA, it gets the axe without getting a proper conclusion and it honestly sucks that this is the mindset nowadays.
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MagicPolly
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That hard limit existed but it was in a year, and a year definitely didn't pass between the beginning of the series and that chapter. It was done early so that the plot would move towards the end quicker |
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lossthief
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Things don't need to be instant megahits to survive in Jump, but they do need to show more growth and potential for a higher floor than PPPPPP did. It did well enough to get by for a while, and I suspect somebody on the editing staff went to bat for it, but sales had stagnated at the lower end of Jump's established lineup for a while. |
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blahmoomoo
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This is nothing new. WSJ has canceled unsuccessful manga for a very long time. The international audience just wasn't aware about it until Manga Plus and the like made WSJ widely available outside of Japan. A ton of titles don't make it past 30 chapters, since the sale numbers of the first volume (which seem to be a big factor to whether the series continues) typically come in around chapter 15-18. Granted, when a title does survive longer than the usual cutoff point for new series that aren't taking off, like PPPPPP, sometimes it seems that the author gets a decent amount of heads up before they are canceled. This time around, it seemed like they were given a short notice (usually 3 chapters), which is a bummer. This is based on how one of the major side characters suddenly got their back story over two chapters, followed by the last chapter where spoiler[the genius Lucky personality rejects the idea that the story would end with all the siblings reconciling with their dad, then takes over Lucky's body and punches/slaps his dad in the face. It reads like the author had resentment over the fact that they can't tell the story that they intended to write.] I'm not necessarily agreeing with how WSJ operates, especially when they choose to cancel a longer running series with what appears to be short notice (see also the dangling threads left in High School Family, which ended last week at 122 chapters). The point is, it happens a lot. Also, moderately successful manga survive in WSJ just fine. Mashle, Mission: Yozakura Family, Undead Unluck, Witch Watch, and The Elusive Samurai are doing well, and only the first three have anime adaptations on the way (these hit around 150 chapters each as of this week; the last two are very close to 100 chapters each). They don't sell nearly as many volumes as OP, MHA, or JJK, but they are at least in the five digits of sales per volume in their initial weeks, while most quick cancelations don't break 10k sales per volume in their initial weeks. PPPPPP had low sales, but it seemed to get a pass for a while for some reason (someone must have advocated for it until they couldn't ignore the low sales). High School Family probably got a pass because it was a gag manga (which have low expectations for volume sales) by an author that previously ran a gag manga in WSJ for 303 chapters. One good thing that has happened recently, at least for the sake of the stories, is that several series have had bonus chapters in the final volume. These are sometimes used to (rapidly) wrap up the plot or just be bonus content. These don't usually end up in the Shonen Jump app though, so these are more of an incentive to get fans to buy the volumes. |
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TheSleepyMonkey
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Need some fries to go with that salt? |
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KarlFranz
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No, the hard limit is 1 years. However there are amny small timeskip thoughtout the manga since it follow the real-life seasonal schedule of music Competitions. Chapter 2 was around Spring (where the dealine was stated), Mimin arc started in August while Fanta arc started around Winter-Spring. |
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Joker#941490
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if it isn't successful as blue box or sakamoto days were it'd be cancelled indeed that's the way jump does. |
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